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 Post subject: Re: Samardjiza Trade
PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:50 pm 
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Forgot about Donnie Moore. Add him to the Cub Closer Corporation.

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 Post subject: Re: Samardjiza Trade
PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:09 pm 
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I would pay him. When he is on his game he can toss a CG. He is a big and strong pitcher. He has a great athletic frame under him and he knows how to work....from his football days. He doesn't have injury issues and should be a durable pitcher that will pitch a lot of innings. The problem with him is mental. He gets too amped up at times. While I like a lot of what he learned being a football player I think he needs to leave some of the mental approach behind. Less is more, think instead of reacting. Be more like Maddux and less like Zambrano.

This isn't football or basketball or hockey. There is no salary cap. Pay the man.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:14 pm 
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Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
I would pay him. When he is on his game he can toss a CG. He is a big and strong pitcher. He has a great athletic frame under him and he knows how to work....from his football days. He doesn't have injury issues and should be a durable pitcher that will pitch a lot of innings. The problem with him is mental. He gets too amped up at times. While I like a lot of what he learned being a football player I think he needs to leave some of the mental approach behind. Less is more, think instead of reacting. Be more like Maddux and less like Zambrano.

This isn't football or basketball or hockey. There is no salary cap. Pay the man.


Theo can sign 4 teenaged Cuban infielders for that kind of money. It's the perfect job,chasing the horizon.

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 Post subject: Re: Samardjiza Trade
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:20 am 
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He's consistently at 100 pitches before the 7th, even in good games, I'm not seeing CG stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: Samardjiza Trade
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:11 am 
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Awesome. Bill Bonham talk.

He got the Cubs Bill Caudill and Woodie Fryman, both solid relievers...just not really with the Cubs.

This was the early save era when like 7 of the top 10 all-time save leaders were ex-Cubs.

Caudill
Ron Davis
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Not an all-time guy but Jay Howell had some solid years.


I remember them all, except I'm drawing a blank on Ron Davis. This was still the nickname era, with "Goose" Gossage and "Dirt" Tidrow.

My dad would complain often about bad Cubs trades, calling their new additions "nothing ballplayers."

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 Post subject: Re: Samardjiza Trade
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:19 am 
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Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
I would pay him. When he is on his game he can toss a CG. He is a big and strong pitcher. He has a great athletic frame under him and he knows how to work....from his football days. He doesn't have injury issues and should be a durable pitcher that will pitch a lot of innings. The problem with him is mental. He gets too amped up at times. While I like a lot of what he learned being a football player I think he needs to leave some of the mental approach behind. Less is more, think instead of reacting. Be more like Maddux and less like Zambrano.

This isn't football or basketball or hockey. There is no salary cap. Pay the man.


Guy hasn't thrown 200 innings in a year yet as he pushes 29. That isn't an innings eater. He may get there this year but really looks like he should be shut down for the year right now.

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 Post subject: Re: Samardjiza Trade
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I remember them all, except I'm drawing a blank on Ron Davis.


Davis was one of those big, hard-throwing righties from Texas. Sparky Lyle made him famous in The Bronx Zoo when he described him attacking the post-game clubhouse food spread as if he had never eaten before.

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 Post subject: Re: Samardjiza Trade
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:34 am 
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Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
They would have to get 2 mlb ready pitchers and probably 3 more prospects.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Even before this year, this was a :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Samardjiza Trade
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:53 am 
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Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
They would have to get 2 mlb ready pitchers and probably 3 more prospects.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Even before this year, this was a :lol: :lol:

He was in a 2 game stretch of dominance then.

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 Post subject: Re: Samardjiza Trade
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Oh well, after 2 games I'm sure teams were lining up with 4 and 5 top prospects to get him! If Rizzo ever can manage to go 4-4, you might be able to trade him for 3 top prospects too!

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 Post subject: Re: Samardjiza Trade
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:32 pm 
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
GOIrishND wrote:
I remember them all, except I'm drawing a blank on Ron Davis.


Davis was one of those big, hard-throwing righties from Texas. Sparky Lyle made him famous in The Bronx Zoo when he described him attacking the post-game clubhouse food spread as if he had never eaten before.


Thanks for the reminder. Every once in a while, Baseball Digest would have something about the pitchers with healthy appetites -- including hiding snacks in the uniform...!

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 Post subject: Re: Samardjiza Trade
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:08 pm 
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Remember guys like Ray Burris & Mike Harkey? Was it Jim Frey & Don Zimmer that got rid of Larry Gura because he didn't throw hard?


That was before Zimmer/Frey. May have been during the brief E.R. "Salty" Saltwell era.

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