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How did the double A team do?

What happens in Tennessee stays in Tennessee. Baez hit a home run. The football player form LSU had a walk. Ramirez from the Garza deal blew. Loosen did pretty well in relief of him.

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How did the double A team do?


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Who is from LSU?

I figured you may be referring to Sczcur, who went to Nova? 2-4 with a 2b and walk.

Some shitty outfielder Kenny drafted in the first round a few years ago. He was playing for Birmingham. Mitchell I think.

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Ive always thought he'd be the guy who was first in the rebuild and went thru a lot of bad years but was around when they got better.

Kind of like Nick Markakis


That may be right. Are there any guys they currently have that you believe will be the key guys on a future champion?

I think he and Castro have a good shot to contribute. Take those two and add Bryant, Baez, and Soler and I just expect 1 or two of them to rise above the rest.

Im not saying it cant be Rizzo. If I had to pick, Id put money on Bryant.


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Cubs prospect C.J. Edwards has come out of nowhere

BY GORDON WITTENMYER September 10, 2013 9:45PM

PROSPERITY, S.C. — Ask anyone at the Waffle House in Newberry, S.C., and they can tell you how to find Prosperity.

“Just go down this road to the Shell and turn left. You’ll see a little green sign.”

But ask what the biggest thing might be to see in a town so small it doesn’t show up on most maps, and you’ll hear laughs.

“Big? In Prosperity? Well, they got a Piggly Wiggly.”

Turns out that’s a stretch because you can’t even see it once you find the weather-beaten gazebo and the slow drip of the fountain at the town center.

Besides, the biggest thing in Prosperity these days is C.J. Edwards.

“Everybody knows C.J., especially since he started playing baseball,” says Prosperity Drug store customer Kayla Dewelt, a former classmate of the Cubs’ pitching prospect. “He’s like our celebrity in town.”

“Hit the mitt, C.J.! Hit the mitt!”

Carl Edwards, a one-time college pitcher from one of the most talented baseball families in the area, took his eldest son in the field behind the house for his first baseball lesson. The kid was just 3.

“I would bend down in the yard and I would tell C.J. I wasn’t going to move the mitt, and he just learned how to hit it,” Carl says. “I just worked on his control.”

Eighteen years later, on a storm-soaked field in Dunedin, Fla., a slender right-hander from the middle of South Carolina — and a few miles past the middle of nowhere — throws strike after strike in his playoff debut for the advanced Class A Daytona Cubs.

“He called me before the game and said, ‘My stomach hurts,’ ” says Sherry Bedenbaugh, a family friend whom C.J. calls his “white mama.” “He gets nervous before every game.”

This time, he has reason. Making up about half the crowd are Cubs chairman Tom Ricketts, general manager Jed Hoyer, assistant GM Randy Bush, two of the Cubs’ top three player-development bosses — Jason McLeod and Brandon Hyde — and Kerry Wood.

Nerves? Edwards strikes out the first four batters, seven of the first 10 and eight overall in the five innings he’s allowed to pitch — touching the mid-90s with sharp movement. Nobody gets a hit against him.

Hoyer and Wood use the same word to describe Edwards’ velocity: “Easy.”

Games like last week in Dunedin and last month in his Cubs-system debut, when he struck out the first seven he faced, show why the Cubs were so insistent Edwards be included in the four-for-one trade with the Texas Rangers for Matt Garza on July 22.

And why Edwards might be the prized prospect among the nine pitchers the Cubs acquired in trades this July. And why he could play a key role in their rebuilding efforts.

But very little beyond the ability, and that velocity, has come easy for Edwards ­— least of all how the Rangers even found him.

“Hit the mitt, C.J.! Just throw to your Uncle Chuck! Hit the mitt!”

The familiar voice encouraged him from behind the backstop when a 15-year-old Edwards made his “Bush League” debut in the early innings of a game already getting away from his Newberry Pirates, delivering to his uncle, Calvin “Chuck” Edwards.

The “Bush League” is a tradition, if not a rite of passage, for the baseball men in the Edwards family.

While the city of Prosperity and its schools are more integrated than Chicago’s, the area’s all-black, adult sandlot league is reminiscent of the loosely formed town teams of the segregated South 70 years ago.

This is where Chris Kemp, an area scout for the Rangers and a junior-college coach in the region, discovered Edwards ­— on a dusty, rutted field with rickety wood dugouts, along Highway 176, next to the old Rutherford Night Club.

“It’s like going back in time,” says Kemp, who heard of Edwards’ growing reputation through a couple of his JC players. “He came in and had like 12 strikeouts. I didn’t have my radar gun with me, but I knew, damn, this kid has a chance to throw hard.”

Kemp’s discovery came long after that debut at 15, when C.J. was called on to replace another uncle, Thomas, on the mound in a lopsided game against the Mapleton Black Sox.

“They had this dude on the other team named Downtown Brown,” Carl says, “and he was hitting them downtown.”

But with Carl behind the screen, and the usually quiet Chuck getting more animated with every strikeout by his nephew, the Pirates came all the way back to win.

“That Downtown Brown,” Carl says, “C.J. struck him out the next three times he came up.”

By the time Kemp got a look, the kid had a toughness and a poise from pitching against the men.

“I thought if we could get 30 pounds on this kid, something good could happen,” Kemp says. “It was almost like a scratch-off lottery ticket.”

So few scouts saw Edwards play in high school or during sporadic appearances for travel teams that the Rangers were able to wait until the 48th round — a round that no longer exists — to draft him in 2011.

Fewer still saw him in summer travel leagues because the family didn’t have the money for it. So he didn’t play until late, when coaches recruited him to play for free.

“He would have had a chance to be a first-rounder,” Cubs scouting executive Tim Wilken says.

Carl Edwards wasn’t happy about how late he was picked. “I was shocked,” he says.

But C.J. says, “I just wanted an opportunity, man. If I can get the opportunity, I can make things happen.”

If there was a chance Edwards wouldn’t sign, it disappeared at
4 a.m., three years ago this December, when C.J. got a call about the accident.

His best friend, Will Bedenbaugh — Sherry’s son — had been killed in a one-car accident on a trip back from Charleston Southern University. Edwards had planned to join him on the CSU baseball team after graduation that spring from Mid-Carolina High.

“After the funeral, that’s when I really started taking life itself — taking it more serious,” says C.J., who says a prayer for Will before every game. “After that day, that’s when everything turned.”

The Rangers offered a $50,000 signing bonus — exceptional for such a late pick. But not before Kemp got lost trying to find the Edwards’ trailer about six miles outside of town, on wooded acreage that has been in the family for generations.

“He had to pick me up on a dirt road,” Kemp recalls, “and I had to follow him on another dirt road.”

If C.J. gets to the big leagues — “when” he gets there, says his mother, Faith — he might finally put Prosperity on some of those maps.

Mark Bowers, who owns the Bowers BP station in town where Faith used to work, said he can’t remember anyone in his 59 years making it big out of Prosperity. “I think there was a junior-college basketball player, but I can’t think of his name,” Bowers says.

But those who know C.J., who still sings in the choir at the church where his mom is a minister, say he already has made a mark.

That doesn’t mean he has always been a choirboy. In eighth grade, with his grades slipping, C.J. talked smack to a teacher who confiscated his CD Walkman. Faith got a call from the school to meet with C.J. and the teacher.

“I told him, when that bus pulls up at 1310 Paradise Road, you best be on it,” she recalls. “And you will not be playing baseball this year.”

It was no idle threat. He didn’t play.

“After that, I didn’t have any more problems out of C.J.,” she says. “After that, no more talking back to the teacher, he did his work and kept his grades up.”

“He’s a better person than he is a pitcher,” says his high school football and baseball coach, Louie Alexander. “It’s the rearing. The big thing is they’re just great people. Good hard-working, country people.”

They call him “String Bean Slinger” — because of his 6-2, 145-pound frame in high school — or some version of “Satch.”

The comparisons to Satchel Paige and Oil Can Boyd are certain to follow Edwards to Class AA Tennessee next season, even if the Cubs’ training staff puts a few more hard pounds on his lean body during what it considers a pivotal offseason for his development.

At 6-3, 165 pounds on a heavy day, he still weighs 15 pounds less than the Hall of Famer Paige did when he pitched.

Edwards, who turned 22 on Sept. 3, has a career 15-5 record and 1.63 ERA in four minor-league stops over two seasons, including 10 scoreless playoff innings for Daytona in which he allowed one hit. He has 251 strikeouts and just 68 walks in 1931/3 innings.

But the most impressive fact might be this: A guy who throws that hard and throws that many pitches in the strike zone has yielded one home run.

“He is extremely driven,” Daytona manager Dave Keller says. “You can tell he doesn’t just want to be a pitcher in the big leagues. He wants to be somebody who makes a difference.”

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Cubs are desperately trying to redefine that trade from Olt being the centerpiece.

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I have never heard an MLB manager address his low minor league talent with the media the way Sveum does. Someone may want to tell Sveum he doesn't have the luxury of looking ahead that his management has.

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I have never heard an MLB manager address his low minor league talent with the media the way Sveum does. Someone may want to tell Sveum he doesn't have the luxury of looking ahead that his management has.

Yeah that will be the first sign that the Cubs are looking to finally put a respectiable product on the field again when they shitcan Dale.

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Per Theo, Vitters going to LF next year, assuming he doesn't get traded in the offseason.

Let's hope for his sake he busts his ass in the offseason and comes to Mesa and wins himself a platoon job.


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Vitters????

Jesus H Christ, this guy is baseball Harvey Unga. Just keeps hanging around for no apparent reason.


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Vitters????

Jesus H Christ, this guy is baseball Harvey Unga. Just keeps hanging around for no apparent reason.



:lol: :lol:
He was hurt most of the year but did hit well when he played. And he just turned 24. He may be a guy who can platoon in LF/1B or DH of course.

Time is running out but he ain't done yet!

Wouldn't surprise me if they traded him though while he still has some (perceived) value.


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Former No. 1 pick Vitters moves to the OF
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Sep 179:56PM CT By Jesse Rogers | ESPNChicago.com

MILWAUKEE -- Former No. 1 Chicago Cubs draft pick Josh Vitters will move to left field, team president Theo Epstein said Tuesday.

Vitters was drafted No. 3 overall in 2007 as a third baseman, but his progress has been slowed by injuries and ineffectiveness.

"He's going to come to spring training ready to re-establish himself," Epstein said.

The Cubs drafted and traded for two third-base prospects this summer, forcing a move to the outfield for Vitters. He was a minor league call-up last season but struggled to a .121 batting average and .193 on-base percentage in 109 plate appearances. He had a leg injury in spring training this season, putting him behind. He had back and rib problems as well.

"He has a program in place that we've signed off on that does not include winter ball," Epstein said. "It involves making himself a more complete baseball player. Working on the mental side of the game. He's really excited about it."

Epstein wasn't as certain about another first-round pick, Brett Jackson. He also was slowed by injuries and struggled during his time in the majors last season. This year he was demoted to Double-A.

"Still to be determined," Epstein said of Jackson's immediate future. "He may end up taking the same path."

Epstein said injured prospects Jorge Soler (foot) and Albert Almora (groin) are on pace to be healthy for the start of the Arizona Fall League.


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Baez not playing in the Arizona Fall League. Reportedly emotionally and physically drained from the season.

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Reportedly emotionally....drained from the season.


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uh oh is right. How long is the minor league season? How many games?

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Yeah I don't like this one damn bit.

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uh oh is right. How long is the minor league season? How many games?


He played 130 games. I guess the idea of minor league travel, games in Daytona and Tennessee, maybe it's not awful? I'm trying here.

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He played 130 games. I guess the idea of minor league travel, games in Daytona and Tennessee, maybe it's not awful? I'm trying here.


I travel for work. I'm not emotionally drained. Does he cry when he flies or get unnecessarily exuberant?

If he fears flying, I reiterate my "uh oh".

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Why would he want to play, at this point? Cubs already said what he wanted to hear, that he will start at AAA next year playing SS.

That being said, I wish he would play. But Almora, Soler, and Bryant really need it more, IMO.


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Let's relax... who knows what the real story is. Probably has a minor injury they are covering up.

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The southern league blows for travel. Those bus rides outside of the shorty to chattanooga suck. They probably average 10 hrs. Its hot as hell too, lots of drinking with the boys, banging cleat chasers. It can take a toll on the body after 130 games. He is probably just tired and has a few minor tweaks and a sore arm and johnson.

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Dude's got generational wealth already. Prolly told the Cubs to piss off.

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Dude's got generational wealth already. Prolly told the Cubs to piss off.


I'm almost 1.4 percent certain that's exactly what happened.

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That one makes more sense as they want him to do more throwing at team facilities to closely monitor his progress from TJS/he's not as far along as they would like at this point

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Maybe the Cubs were waiting to see if one of their Athletic Trainers was assigned to the fall league. It is kinda weird to send a pitcher who is recovering there to work with another teams medical staff.

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Why wouldn't they have a network of medical staff everywhere they have a base, especially with spring training being the equivalent of 20% of a regular season.

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Why wouldn't they have a network of medical staff everywhere they have a base, especially with spring training being the equivalent of 20% of a regular season.

From what I remember each AFL names its own field staff including an athletic trainer. 4 or 5 organizations make up that staff just like the teams. The Cubs medical staff will all be at their facility in mesa working the instructional league. I'm sure their guys will be at the facility getting treatment and whatnot. Another concern is how the manager and pitching coach use the players. Maybe they only want him starting or have a set pitch count. Maybe they want to limit his breaking balls vs fastballs.

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The Cubs trainer is working the fall league this year so who knows. None of the field staff are cubs coaches though.

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