I agree with this. It is very easy for kids who did mildly stupid things to grow into adults who carry an "I know better" overprotective attitude as parents, which ends up pushing their own children to rebel and do stupid shit.

The cycle continues.

Rarely.

I didn't go away to college until I was almost 22. I spent 3 years at a Community College while working full time job. Alcohol really wasn't my thing back then. I would have the occasional beer or shot, but that was about it. I was more of a weed guy back in those days. And no, my parents didn't buy me my first dime.

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My guess is a lot of the pushback here is from people without kids. The instant you forcibly say not to do something, you create an interest. I like your approach a lot. And if they decide to drink, and get waaaayyy too drunk/sick, I would feel more comfortable if that wasn't while I couldn't help him while he was at college.

in europe its customary to let children start drinking socially around age 15 or so... long before they start driving. this is to teach people how to handle impairment before they get behind a wheel.

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Yea, I mean I can't comment on that type of situation. I'm speaking more to the generic graduate, go to college away from home on your own where a large portion of the freshmen class will drink.


Why did your parents let you break the law and buy weed!?!?! I'm outraged.

Right, the idea of parenting your children and being able to teach them appeals more to me than having a bunch of idiot freshmen doing that on my behalf.

Experience is something you got when you didn't want to get it.

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This reminds me of one of those episodes of Maury or a show like that where the mom and daughter are on the show because the mom is stealing her daughter's clothes and pretending like she's still 16 to get attraction from younger men.

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The thread title is about parents who let their kids drink at home. That implies more than a kid sneaking a beer around a bonfire before he heads off to college. Also, you seem to be describing someone who goes to college with a tolerance for alcohol already.

To put it another way, college bars are filled with drunk idiots who can't hold their alcohol doing stupid things, and everyone there should be twenty one and higher. If three years of college can't correct that I don't know if showing up to college with a tolerance will.

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This discussion has been around a while. I do agree fully that drinking early on teen or even pre-teen is a bad thing and can be a problem later on. This is when bad drinking habits can and are introduced and reinforced. Not everyone is destined to a life of alcoholism but it can be a huge factor. One specific problem is tolerance. The earlier one drinks a lot the more one needs to reach their same buzzed level. Problem for driving with all the diligence and lower levels for DUI.

One area I step away from this thought some is the European attitude. It is definitely not a academic case study but pretty close. A lot of my colleagues are European. Not really any from UK/IRL but I digress. They are/were raised with a small glass of wine/beer at the sunday dinner table at a young age and there isn't the taboo aspect for them. Now their parents weren't bingers themselves nor did they throw them parties but they seem to be properly adjusted.

I think the US culture of binge drinking either in HS or college is a much bigger problem them many other alcohol aspects.

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A lot of people, including parents and the police, don't care about underage drinking. As a society no one cares until someone dies in a car accident. They don't typically even arrest underage kids who drink. Why even have laws if they aren't going to enforce them. I guess this is kind of like the illegal aliens where they just kind of look the other way.

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I was working with Berghoff catering a prom down at the Field Museum. One of the bartenders I sent down there was a hot Bulgarian chick named Polya. She was setting up her bar and she asked me where the booze was. I told her it was a prom and she was only going to be serving soft drinks. She said, "That sucks! We had plenty of alcohol at my prom."

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With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

of course I'd be upset. Seeing them has nothing to do with it.

As I said, I'm sure they will drink. They will also pay the price if they do it.

Can anyone tell me one good reason to approve of underage drinking other than to raise their tolerance so they can party harder in college?

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I should have excepted all eastern European countries that drank all the Soviet vodka they could to make the days go.

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Dear Penthouse,

I know this sounds crazy but every word of this is true. At my senior prom, the woman serving soft drinks began to sneak me shots of rakia.....

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Some adult handed you a beer as a kid and you turned out fine? Father wants his son to have his first beer with him?

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There is a much greater stigma attached to public intoxication in Europe.

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No, most of us have kids.

Im not saying if my kid drinks in high school, Ill go crazy, but im not gonna promote it.

And whether you like it or not, if you let them do it at the house, you're promoting the idea.


It's not about keeping alcohol from ever touching their lips, it's about not condoning or supporting it.


And I think your anecdotal evidence about kids who have no tolerance going crazy at college wouldnt hold up, if tested.

The kids who have a tolerance will likely just drink more and have the same issues

Exactly.

I don't and won't keep the alcohol in my house under lock and key.

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Usually even the parents only get in trouble for letting underage kids drink if someone dies in a car accident.

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It is a fact that sheltered kids do some of the dumbest shit in college. Remember that girl that wouldn't have sex with anyone in high school because of her parents? She went away and fucked everyone her first year.

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A few years ago when I was still dating, I ran into a few reformed hoes who were trying to turn their lives around after making themselves walking pin cushions during their college years.

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Its not a fact.

It's a memorable event that sticks out in your brain and therefore holds a higher perceived percentage than reality.


Even if we accepted that as true, the risk of early drinking leading to drinking problems is still too great for me.



I think some people just want their kid to be a bad ass when they get to Bro So Hard University

When our children reach the age of 15, they are allowed to have a drink in our home on religious feasts such as Christmas, Easter and Pentecost.

If we don't teach them to drink responsibly, where are they going to learn it.?

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That's different than what rpb is talking aboot.

At least I think so.

Letting a teenager drink some wine on special occasions isn't irresponsible.

Letting a teenager and his friends have a party and get drunk on a Friday is.

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Maybe nowhere?

I know its rare, but there are those that just choose not to drink

But, if they do, I guess they'll learn where the rest of us did.



And yes, Peeps is right. Having A beer or A glass of wine with the kid is not what Im talking about. Im talking about "Drink at our house" parents

I think we can all agree that the point of drinking is to get drunk so you should just drink as much as possible as quickly as possible and get on with your day.

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I can't help but think about all the times I almost died on the street because I had 4 cups of lukewarm keg beer at a house party in college. Why didn't my parents get me drunk at the age of 14!?!?!

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