Sorry I am so late to this thread. In any case, I always felt having to be 21 to drink was silly. If folks can go to war, vote, and sign legally binding contracts, they should be able to drink. For me, at a minimum, that means 18. Now the discussion is about high school drinking.

Personally, I would prefer that society takes a more casual attitude toward teenage drinking. That means exposing those in that 15-16 age area to alcohol, both its dangers and acceptable uses. That lessons include drinking only in moderation and never driving after drinking. The reason I feel this way is that youngsters would be exposed to responsible ways to drink. Alcohol is a legal product for those 21 and older, and the age portion of it is widely disregarded like the speed limit.

That being said, I do not think parents should ever host a part that serves alcohol to other peoples' kids. I am talking about introducing young adults to something most of them will eventually consume anyway. For all those that say it is not right to teach your kids something illegal, that is why I wish we would change our laws regarding the age limit maybe enough to allow such behavior to be legal with restrictions for those under 18.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

There are incredibly good reasons why 15 year olds shouldn't be drinking alcohol. The fact that some choose to drink it doesn't mean we should make it easier or encourage all of them to do it. Personally, I'm very thankful I didn't drink in high school. It made college more fun and I'm less likely to be an alcoholic.

The 21 year old limit is likely wrong too, but no 15 year old should be drinking.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

We teach kids how to drive at 15, which is a pretty dangerous activity. When do you plan how to teach your kids to drink? Oh wait, it's wrong to teach them, so we'll just let them learn on their own. Just saying.

Edit: I am not saying they can buy at 15-17, merely we allow an exception inside the house. 18 would be the "right" age to buy for me.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Im not doing it. I asked you your opinion and said you're "making it seem"

Are you not making me seem overly strict?

If not, what is your issue with what Im saying?


I think what you think is an overreaction is a very normal reaction.

My parents taught me about sex but they didn't let me invite girls over and supervise as I had sex with them.

There are ways of explaining and providing guidance without showing them how to do it like riding a bike.

Oh, and learning how to drive at 15 won't have serious potential consequences that come from developing brains and bodies having from alcohol.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Fair counterpoint. I stand by my opinion as I don't think you can teach the effects of alcohol by explaining it.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Agreed. However, you also can't expect a parent to provide their children with every single possible life experience in the comfort of their own home. (I know you aren't suggesting that, I'm just expanding on the logic)

I'm glad my parents let me try beer when I was a kid because I immediately found out beer tastes like piss so I never even started drinking. Now if they let me try Bailey's instead it'd be a completely different story.

I never said you were overly strict and I also never said it wasn't normal. I said ESPECIALLY WITH GIRLS you may want to try to control your instinctive reactions because they will eventually cut off lines of communication. That doesn't mean enable it it just means you may want to take a different approach. It won't feel normal but it pays off.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Ken's taking a beating on this topic over the past couple of days

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Parenting teenagers will humble you.

Quickly.

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I'm almost there. I think we forget how difficult teens can be. We get stuck thinking of them as small children.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

My instinctive reactions are and will remain in control. That's what I'm saying.

I already explained there would be a legitimate discussion and explanation. Im not sure what other approach would be better.

My oldest turned 13 this week. You already see teenage stereotypes starting as early as 11. In any case, I am not worried in the least. I have found the children to get easier with each year. I look forward to all those challenges associated with the teenage years. I learned from the obvious mistakes my parents made with me and my siblings.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

In any of your life experiences, do you know any teenager who drank alcohol to quench thirst? I was just thinking about this and I cannot recall a single person in my experience drinking for any other reason than to get drunk.

Another thing, while alcohol was available at almost every party by my senior year of high school, it didn't seem like the majority of people were drinking. It wasn't a social issue either way. The people who drank seemed to REALLY drink, then there were the girls who liked to drink wine coolers and cry but it sure seemed to me that people were there for the social aspect as much as anything.

I am getting old so maybe I don't remember correctly and I know most of you are from the amoral suburbs so your experience might have been different.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

chris hansen

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Truer words haven't been posted on this board in quite awhile.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Bears will beat the Saints


Just as true

Are you drunk now?!?

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Didn't live in a big city, so that may have impacted what people did. The booze was the social outlet. That was the reason most people went to the parties. Everyone had a drink. Some didn't drink as much. That represents the majority of people that I knew, but I don't believe I represented the norm. Just those looking to do something more than sit at home. There were occasions when you could go to a party outside my normal set of friends and booze was available, but it wasn't the focal point. This was incredibly rare. Usually this secondary party had no booze and people were instructed not to bring booze.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

I'll never host a party for my kids, too much liability. I'm damn glad my friends parents did though.

I think experimenting with mind altering drugs is normal and more for young people. Kids like changing their "state". It can turn bad though. Binging is a problem and there is something to be said for teaching kids to have 1 or 2 and be done. Surprises me that seacrest does it.

I wonder if jut as many try it in the 12-15 range and don't have a problem. There are people that like being in altered states for a variety of reasons.

As daunting as the teenage years may be, after a month of twin infants... Bring it on. This double baby raising is for the birds.

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I wonder if kids would drink less if our school system weren't such an uncompromising meat grinder. You have to cope somehow.

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Maybe instead of a fine underage drunk kids should have to go to an AA meeting and a class about the dangers of alcohol.

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To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

i agree, they should learn how to be indoctrinated into a religious cult at a young age too

There were some fine underage drunk kids in downtown Hinsdale the other day.

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