You're crazy. I've got 4 trump and an off Ace.

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Bernstein got his dander up that Spiegel would dare question him on this. Almost like he was pissed that somebody not only figured out his bullshit, but that a co worker would dare call him out on the air. Bernstein said something like "Why are you so weirded out by what I'm hearing."

Bernstein intimidates everybody at the Score. Not Spiegel. I'll give Spiegs some credit for that.

I heard Spiegel say the other day that his sources out of New York were saying no way Girardi was coming to Chicago. I'm sure Spiegel knows that he has far better sources around MLB than bernstein does and it made him angry that bernstein was just so positive, so damn certain he's right.

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I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

If Giraridi signs with the Cubs it doesn't mean that Bernstein had it. Everybody figured they would interview Giraridi since his deal was up. You didn't have to have a source to know that.

I think Dan has even changed the narrative of his own bogus story in the last week or so. I could have sworn he said Giraridi is coming here a week ago. Like it was a done deal. Cubs want him and Joe wanted out of NY. Wanted to come back home.

Then you got those quotes from Giraridi where he said he considers himself more of a New Yorker now and his kids love their school.

Bernstein:

Then the story kind of changed to whatever the hell Dan said during tranny. The way Curious hair put it a few posts up. Where he pretty much covered himself in Bernstein's classic, skilled, bullshitting way where he gives himself an out and can't lose.

Spiegel:

CSFMB: We know, Spiegel. We were onto Bernstein's bullshit long before you came back to the Score. But kudos to you for taking it on.

I can just see the press conference now where Girardi re-ups and says something about how leaving was never a possibility and he's honored to be a Glorious New York Yankee forever and ever, and then the Cubs are standing here with their dicks in their hands and Dan says "well, this changes the calculus, but you really have to give his agent credit."

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So the Bottom line is Dan surveys the scene, takes a fairly likely scenario and then goes hard reporting inside information while sounding authoritative and giving made up details to help sell his bullshit story.

Joe Giraridi to the Cubs is exactly that type of scenario.

I give Mat Spiegel credit,too. I've heard him go gout toe to toe with Bernsy many times.

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They both suck. Why you guys listen to this shit? 2 whiny, smarmy, condescending babies. Yuck o la.

Even if Girardi stays in NY, whoever the Cubs hire will certainly be better than Sveum, who never should have been hired in the first place. I still think Theo & Girardi already have a deal. I hope so anyway...

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This happened over the Lovie Smith deal too. Dan's source said that Lovie could be fired because Emery had the power to do it, but if Lovie didn't get fired, it's because Emery didn't want to do it. Could be true but cannot be proven wrong.

Though if Dan does have a Cubs source, it could easily be Kasper.

They have the same source! And neither talks to that source as much as I do!

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

He's earned every penny

By the way, why does everybody say that Chicago is Giraridi's home town? He grew up in Peoria. That's 165 miles from Chicago. It's not a suburb.

I guess his Dad drove him up for a couple of Cubs games, but he's not from Chicago.

That sounds like a Bernstein thing to constantly complain about

Is Peoria considered Hardcore American South?

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Is it south of I-80?

This is just my read on the thing. Based on nothing but my keen and sharp intuition.

Giraridi is simply using the Cubs to drive up the price for the Yankees. Then, in a couple of years, he'll ask out of the Yankees job or make them fire him to take the Cubs job cuz they'll be good at that point. He doesn't want to suffer through the bad years with the Cubs. But wants it when they're ready to win.

In fact, I'll bet he signs 5 years with the Yanks with an opt out option after 2 years.

Even though the Yankees are in bad shape, they still have a better chance over the Cubs to win for the next two years.

Same idiots that treat South Bend as a burb and ND as a local team.

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Is there any logical reason a person in any position in an MLB organization would move from the Yankees to the Cubs if not for a huge promotion?

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And men have lost their reason.

Bernstein often argues from argumentum ad ignorantiam, which is Latin for argument from ignorance. It's a logical fallacy where he basically puts himself in a position in which he cannot be proven wrong. Many members of the media (all actually) do this, but its magnified when he does it as he is so adamant about the validity of his source. Spiegel was right to openly challenge him on this, saying that it's basically all just rumors and talk from sources. At the end of the day, all of it means nothing.

In fact, I should consider crapping Bernstein on this.

Is the assumption that the Yankees are going to get outbid for a guy that they want?

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And men have lost their reason.

No, but the way your framed the question left out the possibility

Hank's running the Yankees, so yes.

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I don't think he'll leave the Yanks but I want him to come to the Cubs.

-They'll have the best GM

-They'll have the best manager

-They're doing it the right way by growing their own prospects. Not signing old free agents to big/bad contracts.

-They still won't have a World Series after 5 years cuz, well, it's baseball. Great minor league prospects sometimes just suck when they come to MLB. Injuries. And the fact that other teams in baseball are also trying to do it the right way. It's not just the Cubs.

Its a great year to leave the Yankees.

1. Mariano is retiring
2. A-rod has created the shit storm of all shit storms. Girardi had to defend that fuck when he was in the clubhouse and i am sure he is not happy about having to do that. Management wants him gone, he wants to play and keep his money and Girardi is in the middle of it. Now A-rod is suing baseball and this is just going to get uglier and uglier.
3. Jeter is broken and old and is going to hang around to collect cheers and hits but will never be remotely close to the same player he was before his body started to break down.
4. Pettite is gone. CC is old and expensive and not that good anymore.
5. The yankees have been an amazing organization for a long time but they are going to suffer the nastiest of hangovers next year.

If your are going to re-build its probably best to rebuild in a fresh situation instead of one where you are going to have to deal with all the leftover baggage that you are attached to whether you like it or not.

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Going to the Nationals might realistically be the best spot for Girardi though.

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Yankees can go all-in on the Cuban players who are now being allowed to play abroad sans the inner-tube ride to Florida.

They can at least use the Cuban angle to get Cano down on price, especially since the Dodgers have said they are out on Cano.

Jeter can go to Germany or South America or wherever Bartolo Colon and Kobe Bryant go for their fountain of youth treatments.

But all of the above isn't really needed to keep a guy around who has a family firmly-rooted in the area. Girardi's just using the Cubs interest as leverage to
extract more $'s from the Yankees. He'd more likely hit the broadcast booth than uproot his family for Chicago at this point, should the Yanks offer fall short.

Starting the slowly back away process....


Dan Bernstein ‏@dan_bernstein 59m
#Cubs remain hopeful to lure Girardi, the clear top choice. They'll sort through that list of uninspiring fallbacks only if he stays in NY.
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Yep. Last week, before Dale got fired, he was strongly insinuating that Giraridi to the Cubs was pretty close to a lock.

So yesterday the Cubs were "confident". Today they are "hopeful".