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You do realize that he has known this was his son for about 12 hours more than we have known about this story. That is a crazy whirlwind of emotion that an extremely few unfortunate people have experienced.

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I just feel differently. Playing a game after losing a child to violence is worse IMO than being an absentee father. It screams selfishness.


it also screams that this was the bastard child of him and a jump-off. that's the broader implication that hits my gut when i ponder the situation. it'd be a dicey situation where some people might wanna say something, but how can you turn adrian peterson into a bad guy when his kid got killed? there's that one theory from the b&b thread yesterday and there's this....

like i said, dicey.

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Judging it fine - heck that's one of the main purposes of the internet.
However, I am confused as to why you had to do a 'future nomination.' Why not wait until he plays to nominate? This reminds me of the "first." type postings in comment sections. It doesn't matter if you prenominate, make the nomination first, second or last. If anything it makes you look like you are looking for any reason to piss on the guy. Which may be the case, but then DB him for something he has already done.

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Judging it fine - heck that's one of the main purposes of the internet.
However, I am confused as to why you had to do a 'future nomination.' Why not wait until he plays to nominate? This reminds me of the "first." type postings in comment sections. It doesn't matter if you prenominate, make the nomination first, second or last. If anything it makes you look like you are looking for any reason to piss on the guy. Which may be the case, but then DB him for something he has already done.


No issues with AP the person or football player. I was just sitting at the computer on a Friday night and decided to go with that thread title.

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Somebody created a graphic of Peterson with JR and JR had angel wings on. This is getting shared like crazy. Its the wrong kid. Can we please just stop with this. I'm starting to feel people are just doing this to be a part of something. I'm slightly annoyed by this. I suppose I need to ignore and realize the bigger picture.


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Somebody created a graphic of Peterson with JR and JR had angel wings on. This is getting shared like crazy. Its the wrong kid. Can we please just stop with this. I'm starting to feel people are just doing this to be a part of something. I'm slightly annoyed by this. I suppose I need to ignore and realize the bigger picture.


It's grandstanding from a bunch of creepy people.


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Denied. It is how he copes it looks like. He's had a rough life.

If you want to dbag him for possibly being absentee in this kid's life, I think I'd agree.

That's stupid too. He didn't even know until recently that the child was his. It's up to the mother to relay that info, which she hadn't.

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Maybe, just MAYBE, people should wait to hear full stories before making grand statements.

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Maybe, just MAYBE, people should wait to hear full stories before making grand statements.


Well that takes too long most of the time. By the time you know the full story it isn't a story anymore.

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That /\ sounds dumb



I have only one child so if anything happened like that I think I'd be a baketcase or doing stupid crazy shit


I wouldn't be at work though


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That /\ sounds dumb



I have only one child so if anything happened like that I think I'd be a baketcase or doing stupid crazy shit


I wouldn't be at work though


I have a couple more so I would probably try to be as strong as possible for them but in private I would be the same way. I imagine I wouldn't eat for a while and I know I wouldn't want to talk to anyone but my kids.

I'm trying to understand him. Obviously not knowing the child was yours does make a difference but it's nowhere near the same as losing any other relative. I love my brother but his death would not be the same as losing a child. Hell I would kill my brother in a heartbeat if it meant my kids would live. There is just nothing you can compare that feeling too. Even the thought of it hurts.

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I'll say this, if he thinks God wanted him at the combine after his brother died than I see why he thinks this is OK


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CSFMB: informing people of how to act since 2004

Anyone who informs people how to act, and puts mayonnaise on a hot dog is a moron.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
That /\ sounds dumb



I have only one child so if anything happened like that I think I'd be a baketcase or doing stupid crazy shit


I wouldn't be at work though

Would your life essentially be over?

Might as well commit suicide at that point, eh?


The thought probably does cross the mind of many parents.

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Anyone who informs people how to act, and puts mayonnaise on a hot dog is a moron.

Know any good Sandy Hook jokes?

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Makes me question their mindset even when their child is alive.


I'm not sure if you're just trolling or just ignorant. The love you have for a child is millions of times different than the love someone may have for a car.

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Thanks! I figured you were trolling as usual but just wanted to be sure.

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Props to Nas for sayin' what's on his mind. I don't buy in totally, but I can see where he's coming from.

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For the record, I got zero children so I have nothing to say in this thread. I cannot imagine one way or the other how I'd react.

Once I was criticized for saying that those unmarried should refrain from giving marital advice. I think, in this case, this holds true that those without children should kind of butt out and leave it because you'd never have the first fucking clue how one would feel or should act.

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For the record, I got zero children so I have nothing to say in this thread. I cannot imagine one way or the other how I'd react.

Once I was criticized for saying that those unmarried should refrain from giving marital advice. I think, in this case, this holds true that those without children should kind of butt out and leave it because you'd never have the first fucking clue how one would feel or should act.

Everyone has family. Everyone has feelings.

Everyone has the right to comment on this. Again, you cannot have it both ways.

Either no one can have an opinion unless you've been in a person's exact shoes, or everyone is allowed to have some sort of empathy no matter the circumstance.

Specifically, I'm tired of Nas' severe pattern of hypocrisy on this board. Every time a social issue comes on, he is the caped crusader of liquid bullshit.

Not everyone has family.
Second, you have a right to comment all you want. But until you have kids, your commentary is and should be considered lacking context. You have no idea what the connection between a father and his children is. None. You cannot say otherwise.


I'm just saying that if you don't have kids you probably have little context upon which to draw conclusions on how someone would feel if that child was beaten to death or otherwise faced a life threatening situation.

I can't imagine how this feels. Because I have a cat, no kids. I'll just take AP for his word.

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I'm just saying that if you don't have kids you probably have little context upon which to draw conclusions on how someone would feel if that child was beaten to death or otherwise faced a life threatening situation.

I can't imagine how this feels. Because I have a cat, no kids. I'll just take AP for his word.


Nas cannot fathom what it feels like to lose a kid in the same sense that I cannot fathom what it is like to have one.

AP knows AP's life best.

But which of us has a better idea of what that would be like? A man who, when I got into his great smelling car had a baby seat in it our you or I?
I'll take Nas's opinion over either of ours any day.

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Son’s death doesn’t make Adrian Peterson a great guy
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October 13, 2013 | 7:54pm

We in the media — especially those working event broadcasts — have a horrible habit of blindly or wishfully reporting great achievers are additionally blessed: They’re great humans.

Among many others, we did it with Tiger Woods and Lance Armstrong. Last year, we began to do it with Adrian Peterson, before, and then after, he was selected the NFL’s MVP. With every big game — 2,037 running yards worth — the media bloated his profile: There runs Superman, a super guy, too.
“We talked with him after practice, and let me tell you this and that about Adrian Peterson.” Peterson still finds time to do charity work in the Twin Cities area.” Blah, blah and blah. Good equals goodness.

Thus it was unsurprising Peterson’s downside went ignored. In 2009, he was busted for driving 109 mph in a 55 mph zone. He dismissed that as no big deal, which was doubly disturbing — his older, full brother was killed by a reckless driver.

Last summer, Peterson was in a club when he and friends were informed that it was closing time, past 2 a.m. Apparently, Peterson and pals felt they would decide when it was time to close. The police report noted three cops were needed to subdue Peterson.

He spent the rest of the night in jail, arrested for resisting arrest (a charge that was later dismissed).
Of course, we all have to operate from are our own set of values, our personal sense of right from wrong. Perhaps, given current standards among NFL players — mostly college men, no less — Peterson qualifies as a man of good character.

Still, I’m stuck with what I’ve got. And it’s sickening the NFL’s latest MVP, hours after his son died — allegedly murdered — declared he was “ready to roll,” ready to play football.

Me? I’d be fighting for breath, my knees weak with grief, demanding to know why, who, how. Then, I suspect, I’d seethe with rage, swearing retribution. I even think I’d take off a day or two from work. Maybe a week.

The suspect in the beating murder of Peterson’s 2-year-old is the boyfriend of Peterson’s “baby mama” — now the casual, flippant, detestable and common buzz-phrase for absentee, wham-bam fatherhood.
The accused, Joseph Patterson, previously was hit with domestic assault and abuse charges.
With his resources, how could Peterson, the NFL’s MVP, have allowed his son to remain in such an environment? Did he not know, or not care? Or not care to know? Or not know to care?
Peterson couldn’t have provided his son a better life, a longer life?

Money can’t buy love, but having signed a $96 million deal, he could not have provided his child — apparently his second from a “baby mama” — a safe home?

But given Peterson’s father did hard time for drug money laundering, and his half-brother was murdered, maybe we’re both stuck with the values in which we were born, raised.
On Friday, Peterson said he was “focused” on football. On Sunday, he played. But it’s not as if murder doesn’t now regularly afflict the NFL.

Maybe Peterson’s son is just one more stands-to-reason murder victim, just another child born to just another “baby mama,” one more kid who never had a shot, anyway. Maybe, by now, even if we can’t accept it, we can expect it.

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As a father I still think everybody's entitled to an opinion. Nas can be dead wrong and IMU can be dead right, no matter what their past experiences are. Not a big fan of that patronizing "you'll understand when..." Just a lazy way to shut down a conversation.


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As a father I still think everybody's entitled to an opinion. Nas can be dead wrong and IMU can be dead right, no matter what their past experiences are. Not a big fan of that patronizing "you'll understand when..." Just a lazy way to shut down a conversation.


I agree. Everyone can have an opinion even if you don't have kids. We have opinions about many things we've never done. I think most parents would agree that what they thought before having kids and how they feel after having them are different. That's the case with just about anything.

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As a father I still think everybody's entitled to an opinion. Nas can be dead wrong and IMU can be dead right, no matter what their past experiences are. Not a big fan of that patronizing "you'll understand when..." Just a lazy way to shut down a conversation.


Imu can't ever be right. I'd think all is right in AP's world, he's rich.


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