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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:24 am 
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bigfan wrote:
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Careful, Sox could trade Peavy to the O's for that guy who just had Tommy John surgery.


The acquisition of surgically repaired pitchers is the new exploitation of market inefficiency.

Hendry loved the injured pitcher gamble

If you dont rely on the guy, its not a gamble, its a good move. Scott Baker, for example, if it works is a good deal.

If you planned on scott Baker being a starter for you this year, that is "No gouda"


I'd say that was true if you were signing him for league minimum. Scott Baker stole $5 million which did impact talent acquisition for the team. They could have taken that money to get Keppinger.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:25 am 
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1. Hahn is Jewish
2. You Die Hard Sox fans that dont know who Howard Pizer is, feel free to turn in your "PRIDE" cards on the way out.


Know him? I billed him!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:51 am 
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bigfan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
Careful, Sox could trade Peavy to the O's for that guy who just had Tommy John surgery.


The acquisition of surgically repaired pitchers is the new exploitation of market inefficiency.

Hendry loved the injured pitcher gamble

If you dont rely on the guy, its not a gamble, its a good move. Scott Baker, for example, if it works is a good deal.

If you planned on scott Baker being a starter for you this year, that is "No gouda"

Semanitics, its a low risk gamble.

For a big market team, its worth it.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:54 am 
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Its much more worth it to pay $10-15 million for 2 or 3 Scott Baker types than it is to give Edwin Jackson the years and money they did.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:05 am 
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I will now officially refer to any more steals Rick makes as Hahnjobs.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:54 am 
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Its much more worth it to pay $10-15 million for 2 or 3 Scott Baker types than it is to give Edwin Jackson the years and money they did.


All part of the master plan, Frank.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:29 pm 
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bigfan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
Careful, Sox could trade Peavy to the O's for that guy who just had Tommy John surgery.


The acquisition of surgically repaired pitchers is the new exploitation of market inefficiency.

Hendry loved the injured pitcher gamble

If you dont rely on the guy, its not a gamble, its a good move. Scott Baker, for example, if it works is a good deal.

If you planned on scott Baker being a starter for you this year, that is "No gouda"


That was what I hated about Hendry's handling of Kerry Wood. Every year he would lament that "no one knew Woodie would get hurt this year," despite the fact everyone knew he would be hurt again and there was no backup plan.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:08 pm 
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White Sox acquired LHP Sean Bierman from the Rays to complete the Jesse Crain trade.

He's a 25 yr old lefty starter with a 3.00 ERA in 150 innings and he has a cool last name. I'm not sure if it's a steal but it is a pretty decent return for a guy who didn't throw a pitch for the Rays.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:30 pm 
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Bierman! Hey Bierman!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:35 am 
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have a feeling the name will also be his job title within a couple of years

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:55 am 
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White Sox acquired LHP Sean Bierman from the Rays to complete the Jesse Crain trade.

He's a 25 yr old lefty starter with a 3.00 ERA in 150 innings and he has a cool last name. I'm not sure if it's a steal but it is a pretty decent return for a guy who didn't throw a pitch for the Rays.

When you are 24 and just at A+, sounds like a career minor leaguer.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:32 am 
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Probably but he is a lefty which means he has a shot at scratching out a career as a loogy.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:42 am 
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Probably but he is a lefty which means he has a shot at scratching out a career as a loogy.

So reading more on him...He had Tommy John surgery in 2010. He tops out in the high 80's and has a sinker, curve and cutter. His groundball rate was high in the minors (near 60%)

So basically he's Mark Buerhle-like with arm trouble in his past.


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Trade got better - they added Ben Kline - 25 year old 3B with no power.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:13 am 
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The baffling thing is how the Rays gave up anything. Crain had a sore arm. Took a month off and still had a sore arm. Right then and there you knew the knife was the only thing that was going to help him.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:18 am 
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They gave up two A level players with little to no chance of making it to the majors. I guess the Sox get some farm depth and that's about it. Bierman could surprise but based on what is seen with Kline - no chance he progresses up the ladder.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:27 am 
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Kline went to Embry–Riddle Aeronautical University. I can't beleive they have a baseball team. :lol:

He's a REALLY! SMART! PLAYER!


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:46 am 
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Keyser Soze wrote:
Kline went to Embry–Riddle Aeronautical University. I can't beleive they have a baseball team. :lol:

He's a REALLY! SMART! PLAYER!

Started at Nebraska - don't give him too much credit.


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