"There is no reason to rush back. He may make it worse. No one questions his toughness. He's being selfish."

"Fuck him and his feelings. Who gives the Bears the best chance to win this week should be the only thing that matters."


"This is true. IF his mobility is the cause of his poor play then what? If he reinjures himself what do we say then?"

"We were told that it would take AT LEAST 4 weeks for him to come back. IF he's coming back too soon he could reinjure himself and hurt the teams chances for winning. There is no need for him to rush back now."


"We're fans of the team. We're criticizing him because we believe he may hurt the Bears chances of winning a winnable game. It's really that simple. McCown hasn't been bad enough where we believe Cutler at 60% is the Bears best chance to win. A few years ago this was true and he DIDN'T come back.

You haven't been watching football for a long time then. This happens just about every week. Do you think Tillman should have been out there earlier in the season? He clearly wasn't healthy but he told the coaches and medical staff he was fine. Players in all sports do this. Cutler won't be the first or last."

"Doctors will clear anyone and coaches will generally defer to their best players when it comes to their availability. This is nothing unusual for Trestman or the medical staff."


"I think if you give just about any QB time to throw they can be competent. The offensive line has done a great job pass blocking all year. McCown has also been smart enough to not try to do too much. The offense has played with great pace and has been successful because of it. I'm hopeful that a healthy Cutler will also recognize that he doesn't need to hit a homerun on every play. McCown doesn't have 2% of the talent Cutler does but talent doesn't always win games."

"This is a game the Bears need to win. I believe Cutler is rushing back even though he isn't healthy. I don't trust the doctors. They will clear anyone. We'll find out Sunday if he's healthy or not. If not he could hurt the Bears playoff chances and best lost for the rest of the season if he reinjures himself. It's not worth the risk."

He was limited in the first half. He wasn't moving very well. Detroit just either couldn't get to him or didn't try and get to him.

It obviously got worse in the second half.

How was I wrong? This should never have been Cutler's decision. Ever.

When he hurt the knee against GB, Lovie took him out. Just like Trestman should have today. That's it. To say Cutler should have overridden the doctor and the coach is just as foolish as today as it was 3 years ago.

And I don't get why you go to McCown for the final drive. Either go all-in with Jay, or he should have come out much earlier. Otherwise you're saying, #6 is our guy, and as long as he's standing he is our general... unless we really need to score with the game on the line.

I like coach but I think he got a learning opportunity today.

"I like that he's an intellect."

You don't put yourself above the team. I expressed why I thought it was a terrible idea. You and others told me I was wrong because he wouldn't try to comeback and they wouldn't allow him to come back if he were not healthy. Clearly I was right. That is why I said cut the crap. That's exactly what that post was.

And I don't get why you go to McCown for the final drive. Either go all-in with Jay, or he should have come out much earlier. Otherwise you're saying, #6 is our guy, and as long as he's standing he is our general... unless we really need to score with the game on the line.

I like coach but I think he got a learning opportunity today.

He's a member of the lost tribe.

But no - what I said was, it's wrong to blame Cutler from trying to rush back. Look back at anything I said; I never said anything different. It is the coach and the doctor that should be making the decision. If they say go, what is he supposed to do?

This isn't a broken bone. The player matters greatly in these types of injuries which are much harder to diagnose.

If Cutler says he is good to go what can a doctor really say? "No, you look like garbage"?

This isn't a broken bone. The player matters greatly in these types of injuries which are much harder to diagnose.

If Cutler says he is good to go what can a doctor really say? "No, you look like garbage"?

But no - what I said was, it's wrong to blame Cutler for trying to rush back. Look back at anything I said; I never said anything different. It is the coach and the doctor that should be making the decision. If they say go, what is he supposed to do?

Well he knew enough to say it was a 4-week minimum injury. Then suddenly Cutty tells him he miraculously healed, and the doc forgot he earned a degree to understand these things?

Well he knew enough to say it was a 4-week minimum injury. Then suddenly Cutty tells him he miraculously healed, and the doc forgot he earned a degree to understand these things?

Not play when he isn't healthy. It is really that simple. You don't put yourself ahead of the team. This game was too important for that. McCown hasn't been bad. If he were then I would have been supportive of him rushing back.

Not play when he isn't healthy. It is really that simple. You don't put yourself ahead of the team. This game was too important for that. McCown hasn't been bad. If he were then I would have been supportive of him rushing back.

That's how the NFL works though. Team doctors are notorious for not fighting with players who want to play especially with injuries like this where it's really hard to tell unless you are the one who physically has it.

This isn't a broken bone. The player matters greatly in these types of injuries which are much harder to diagnose.

If Cutler says he is good to go what can a doctor really say? "No, you look like garbage"?

Trestman is not going to sleep well tonight. His pregame decisions were bad. His in game decisions were bad. He had a bad week and a bad day.

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

Correction: McCown has been excellent! He just drove the Bears with 2 minutes left give them a chance. The TD pass was big boy quarterbacking! The one dumb play is throwing that 2 pointer 15 yards over everybody's head.

Yes, happens all the time. Most importantly, if Jay wasn't able to make the throws in practice, Trestman shouldn't have started him. Based on the first drive, I think the decision to start him was correct. He played up "better than McCown" throughout the entire first half. Coming out in the second, he didn't. He should have been benched.

Trestman was great on Monday.