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Myself and my daughter's mother have long agreed the whole idea of this thing is pretty ridiculous and borderline morally wrong (what with hunger and everything)

But my daughter remains staunch in her requests. She's had an awesome year at school and I dont wanna to deny her big christmas gift, but we've always been firmly against it


Am I just cheap or does anyone else think speding 40 dollars on one outfit or 20 dollars on a haircut for a doll is dumb?


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My wife still has fond childhood memories of her doll and was all in on buying one for our goddaughter. Buy her one and make her happy and give her a memory she'll always have. You aren't solving hunger with that money anyways.

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Take that money and put it towards the defense next year.

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My wife still has fond childhood memories of her doll and was all in on buying one for our goddaughter. Buy her one and make her happy and give her a memory she'll always have. You aren't solving hunger with that money anyways.

Yeah, Im leaning towards giving in.

Her mom is complaining that she doesnt take care of her toys enough or she wont use it enough, but kids rarely use ANYTHING enough to justify the price.


Thinking about buying the doll and then setting up some incentives to get the accessories or just have her save her allowance for stuff.


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I think it is stupid but it's one of those things. Just make sure she knows it's a special occasion type thing or you'll be going to the American Girl Cafe for High Tea once a month.

I'm going to have to get two at the same time....at least I'm not RFDC though, that poor bastard is on the hook for 4 of them.

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Wait a second. A haircut? For a doll? Is that for real?

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Wait a second. A haircut? For a doll? Is that for real?


It's all too real. You take them to the store and buy clothes, give them a haircut and take them to lunch. It's a fucking scene man. I've yet to have to attend but have heard some horror stories.

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Take that money and put it towards the defense next year.

Im sure an American girl doll could miss tackles just as well as Chris Conte


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My best friend in high school was in the American Girl Theater. I wonder if she got free dolls.

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Do they make a nose tackle doll? :lol:

Thankfully I avoided this dilemma as my daughter never liked dolls - she always loved stuffed animals. She went to a birthday party at the American Girl Store once and she had to borrow someone else's.

We were prepared to buy her one if she really wanted one. But just one. And one outfit. Otherwise she would have had to buy all the other stuff herself.

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Wait a second. A haircut? For a doll? Is that for real?

No, you don't cut a doll's hair. That's ridiculous and an episode of Curb.


You can however, have it styled for the bargain price of 20 dollars. I imagine a tip is expected too.


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You could always just get her Tom Petty's greatest hits. It's the first track. Tell her dads always get these things mixed up.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Wait a second. A haircut? For a doll? Is that for real?


It's all too real. You take them to the store and buy clothes, give them a haircut and take them to lunch. It's a fucking scene man. I've yet to have to attend but have heard some horror stories.

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And then there's things like this....



American Girl Place Mocks 6 Year-Old For Having A Doll From Target, Refuses To Style The Doll's Hair
By Meg Marco March 23, 2007

This story is just heartbreaking. We feel really, really bad for this little girl. Etta saved all her money and purchased a pretty doll from Target named Gracie. When she was invited by her friend to bring her doll to American Girl Place for a “doll hairstyle” she was thrilled…until the stylist chided her for not having a “real” doll and refused her business.
From Etta’s Mom’s Blog:
“Come spend a day you’ll never forget!” the website promised. And boy did you deliver.
Frommers Guide to New York says “don’t forget to bring [your] favorite doll so it can get a makeover at the store’s own doll salon.” I know it’s craaaaazy that a Target fake (that cost only $29.99 of Etta’s real saved money!) would be her favorite doll but it was.
At least it used to be.
Back when she thought it was real.

“This isn’t a real doll!” the stylist exclaimed. (Thank your stylist!–we never would have had the heart to explain it that way!). And to prove that a fake doll isn’t worth the plastic she’s molded out of, she refused to do the doll’s hair.
I’m not sure exactly what’s in it for your company, because you still stood to make $20 off of my daughter for doing the fake doll’s hair. I have two thoughts on that. Either her $20 wasn’t worth the same as someone else’s $20 (in which case I’ve learned something new too!) OR it was worth the $20 to you to be able to be the one to break the news to, I mean, to *enlighten* my little girl. You do promise to teach little girls, don’t you?
And she cried and cried and cried, and your stylist held her ground. That was a good lesson for her too. That feelings don’t have a place in “the heart of Manhattan’s prestigious shopping neighborhood” (another quote from your website).
This makes us feel terrible. Really terrible. We had a fake Cabbage Patch Kid when we were small. Our parents weren’t about to wait in line and punch other people just to buy a doll, so we made due. We loved that fake doll, and can’t imagine how terrible we’d have felt being publicly humiliated in front of “Real Cabbage Patch Kid” owners:
And did you realize how loyal to you all the other mommies in line were? You’d have been proud of them.
One chided Etta for not knowing she couldn’t bring a fake doll to the store. Tsk tsk. She’s in first grade now and can read by herself (taught herself, in fact). She probably should have done the research. There’s another great lesson for her. (Thanks mom in line!)
One mom muttered to another that Etta probably couldn’t afford a real one. Great hunch! She’s six!
One mom just smiled and said “Well, American Girl Dolls aren’t for everyone, you know.” A sentence cleverly crafted to make Etta feel like someone cared about her but also to be aware that she really didn’t belong there in your fancy store with the other, richer, better girls. How compassionate!
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Curious Hair wrote:
You could always just get her Tom Petty's greatest hits. It's the first track. Tell her dads always get these things mixed up.

Yeah, that's one of my favorite Petty songs, but when its on, she brings up the damn doll!


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You could always just get her Tom Petty's greatest hits. It's the first track. Tell her dads always get these things mixed up.

Yeah, that's one of my favorite Petty songs, but when its on, she brings up the damn doll!

How about a Liberian Girl doll?

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You can however, have it styled for the bargain price of 20 dollars. I imagine a tip is expected too.

Can you imagine the self esteem on the poor shlub that has to do that for 8 hours a day?

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My best friend in high school was in the American Girl Theater. I wonder if she got free dolls.

I had a friend who was too. She was Sri Lankan and they had her playing as an East Asian.


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You can however, have it styled for the bargain price of 20 dollars. I imagine a tip is expected too.

Can you imagine the self esteem on the poor shlub that has to do that for 8 hours a day?


yeah a job like that would almost make you want to sell light bulbs for a living


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My best friend in high school was in the American Girl Theater. I wonder if she got free dolls.

I had a friend who was too. She was Sri Lankan and they had her playing as an East Asian.

Dravidians are practically black. That's terrible casting!

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
My wife still has fond childhood memories of her doll and was all in on buying one for our goddaughter. Buy her one and make her happy and give her a memory she'll always have. You aren't solving hunger with that money anyways.

Yeah, Im leaning towards giving in.

Her mom is complaining that she doesnt take care of her toys enough or she wont use it enough, but kids rarely use ANYTHING enough to justify the price.


Thinking about buying the doll and then setting up some incentives to get the accessories or just have her save her allowance for stuff.


This is usually the issue I have with wish list of girls. They will love it for about a week and then you'll find it in a closet somewhere or possibly missing an arm. Boys are the same but their stuff generally doesn't cost as much. I remember being different as a kid.

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KDdidit wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
My best friend in high school was in the American Girl Theater. I wonder if she got free dolls.

I had a friend who was too. She was Sri Lankan and they had her playing as an East Asian.

Dravidians are practically black. That's terrible casting!


I'm picturing a guy in a beret and cartoon director pants. "Kahoko pulled a hammy? Sachini -Kimono up!"

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My best friend in high school was in the American Girl Theater. I wonder if she got free dolls.

I had a friend who was too. She was Sri Lankan and they had her playing as an East Asian.

Dravidians are practically black. That's terrible casting!


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Wait a second. A haircut? For a doll? Is that for real?


It's all too real. You take them to the store and buy clothes, give them a haircut and take them to lunch.
So. What do dolls eat?

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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Wait a second. A haircut? For a doll? Is that for real?


It's all too real. You take them to the store and buy clothes, give them a haircut and take them to lunch.
So. What do dolls eat?


Plastic food

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
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Wait a second. A haircut? For a doll? Is that for real?


It's all too real. You take them to the store and buy clothes, give them a haircut and take them to lunch.
So. What do dolls eat?


They have food for dolls. They even have take a shit. I believe it was a Girl Alive doll that I bought one of my kids several years ago. She loved it for about a couple of weeks and the next time I saw the doll it have graffiti on it. I almost had a heart attack.

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And they charge you for this?

I had no idea there were actual doll salons. I knew there were American Girl dolls with outfits, but I did not think people actually pay real money for doll perms and plastic doll food. That is kind of pretty much insane.

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I dont know if they really have plastic food but they really do have a cafe with special seats for the dolls.

When my daughters were a week old we got an American Girl catalogue in the mail. They know everything.....

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And they charge you for this?

I had no idea there were actual doll salons. I knew there were American Girl dolls with outfits, but I did not think people actually pay real money for doll perms and plastic doll food. That is kind of pretty much insane.


Girls can convince their father/parents to do just about anything. There is so much crap for you to waste money on nowadays.

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