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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:58 am 
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At my job, you can start at any location in northern illinois... I've had to start in Gurnee and Harvard, Aurora and Genoa and all points in between including the fucking city (hate working there) and you have to be there at 8 am. No exceptions. None.
At my 6 month review last year, they told me that over the previous 6 months I was a total of 12 minutes late. Once was because I got sent the wrong address (gave me a McHenry address instead of a Johnsburg address, not exactly my fault, 9 minutes late) and 3 individual instances of being 1 minute late. That means my truck ignition was turned off at 8:01 instead of 8:00. Three times. And they noted it.
At my 1 year review they said I was a total of 4 minutes late the next six months. One instance, 4 minutes. Got stuck behind a nasty tbone right in front of me at 22 and 14 in Fox River Grove.
It's absolutely ridiculous that they give us shit for that kind of stuff. It's not like we take the same route to the same place every day and we know exactly how long the drives are, whether there's construction en route, and god forbid there's an accident or something unpredictable.

They noted those incidents which is pretty draconian but what does it mean overall ? did it affect your raise or was it more just a way of saying we're watching you? The more I think about the fact that I lost an entire days pay for being 13 minutes late is pissing me off more and more. I filed an EEOC complaint today but nothing is going to come of it . The union says there's really nothing they can do which I can't believe. Overall 3 of us were sent home , from what I hear several others were allowed to stay and the manager doesn't have to explain why. So over the next couple months or so Im going to find 30 minutes or so of overtime a day until my lost days pay is made up. Its easy enough to do and not get caught.By the way today, no managers on site to monitor start times as usual. so i guess it was only yesterday that it was important to do that. Cock suckers.


if its really pissing you off, go back and add all the minutes you started early and send them a bill for unpaid wages.

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You lost a day's pay for being flippant. Move on.

You ok with different rules for different people Seacrest? Arbitrary enforcement? You go home , another employees gets to stay and work for violating the same work rule? You think thats an effective management strategy and way to direct employees under you?

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Union job where on a whim they can do without you for the day but is somehow interesting to the common-folk of suburbia? BR17's an extra on a tv/movie set? I don't think the extras are unionized.

I've heard tales similar to DS's from people who work for UPS. The whole noting the de minimis late minutes thing seems sadistically spurious in terms of managing a team.

Chicago must invite a fucked up management style, e.g., Eddie Lampert and his destruction of Sears:

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Lampert is now known as one of the worst CEOs in America — the man who flushed Sears down the toilet with his demented management style and harebrained approach to retail. Sears stock is tanking. His hedge fun is down 40 percent, and the business press has turned from praising Lampert’s genius to watching gleefully as his ship sinks. Investors are running from “Crazy Eddie” like the plague.

http://www.alternet.org/economy/eddie-l ... d-ayn-rand



Or Michael Ferro's amazingly quick destruction of the suntimes, from a profitable paper to about to be shuttered for good in two short years:

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:24 pm 
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At my job, you can start at any location in northern illinois... I've had to start in Gurnee and Harvard, Aurora and Genoa and all points in between including the fucking city (hate working there) and you have to be there at 8 am. No exceptions. None.
At my 6 month review last year, they told me that over the previous 6 months I was a total of 12 minutes late. Once was because I got sent the wrong address (gave me a McHenry address instead of a Johnsburg address, not exactly my fault, 9 minutes late) and 3 individual instances of being 1 minute late. That means my truck ignition was turned off at 8:01 instead of 8:00. Three times. And they noted it.
At my 1 year review they said I was a total of 4 minutes late the next six months. One instance, 4 minutes. Got stuck behind a nasty tbone right in front of me at 22 and 14 in Fox River Grove.
It's absolutely ridiculous that they give us shit for that kind of stuff. It's not like we take the same route to the same place every day and we know exactly how long the drives are, whether there's construction en route, and god forbid there's an accident or something unpredictable.


can you post the name of the company? i want to forward it to 4chan so they can troll them into oblivion.

no matter though, they will fail eventually anyway... unless they can make it far enough that robots become cheap enough to replace humans. thats what these companies see their employees as anyway.

Maybe Darko should consider taking personal responsibility for making sure he's on time for work and leave early just in case of traffic issues.


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Being late is in my top 5 of things that annoy me. That being said I'm glad I don't have to punch a clock. I personally would be more forgiving when the weather is bad but would have an issue with people that make it a habit.

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Being late is in my top 5 of things that annoy me. That being said I'm glad I don't have to punch a clock. I personally would be more forgiving when the weather is bad but would have an issue with people that make it a habit.


i think everyone THINKS this way, but what is considered habit?

to me, that would be more then once a month.. MAYBE twice if its just a min or two...

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You lost a day's pay for being flippant. Move on.

You ok with different rules for different people Seacrest? Arbitrary enforcement? You go home , another employees gets to stay and work for violating the same work rule? You think thats an effective management strategy and way to direct employees under you?


I'm OK with accepting the fact that my similar attitudes over the years cost me days off and added revenue. We both know from experience.

And do I expect unions to stand up for me? Don't make me laugh. The Teamsters didn't and don't give a shit about me. Your union sounds similar.

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Darkside wrote:
At my job, you can start at any location in northern illinois... I've had to start in Gurnee and Harvard, Aurora and Genoa and all points in between including the fucking city (hate working there) and you have to be there at 8 am. No exceptions. None.
At my 6 month review last year, they told me that over the previous 6 months I was a total of 12 minutes late. Once was because I got sent the wrong address (gave me a McHenry address instead of a Johnsburg address, not exactly my fault, 9 minutes late) and 3 individual instances of being 1 minute late. That means my truck ignition was turned off at 8:01 instead of 8:00. Three times. And they noted it.
At my 1 year review they said I was a total of 4 minutes late the next six months. One instance, 4 minutes. Got stuck behind a nasty tbone right in front of me at 22 and 14 in Fox River Grove.
It's absolutely ridiculous that they give us shit for that kind of stuff. It's not like we take the same route to the same place every day and we know exactly how long the drives are, whether there's construction en route, and god forbid there's an accident or something unpredictable.


can you post the name of the company? i want to forward it to 4chan so they can troll them into oblivion.

no matter though, they will fail eventually anyway... unless they can make it far enough that robots become cheap enough to replace humans. thats what these companies see their employees as anyway.

Maybe Darko should consider taking personal responsibility for making sure he's on time for work and leave early just in case of traffic issues.


FuckSide is definitely taking up vast amounts of real-estate in your head.


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IkeSouth wrote:
Darkside wrote:
At my job, you can start at any location in northern illinois... I've had to start in Gurnee and Harvard, Aurora and Genoa and all points in between including the fucking city (hate working there) and you have to be there at 8 am. No exceptions. None.
At my 6 month review last year, they told me that over the previous 6 months I was a total of 12 minutes late. Once was because I got sent the wrong address (gave me a McHenry address instead of a Johnsburg address, not exactly my fault, 9 minutes late) and 3 individual instances of being 1 minute late. That means my truck ignition was turned off at 8:01 instead of 8:00. Three times. And they noted it.
At my 1 year review they said I was a total of 4 minutes late the next six months. One instance, 4 minutes. Got stuck behind a nasty tbone right in front of me at 22 and 14 in Fox River Grove.
It's absolutely ridiculous that they give us shit for that kind of stuff. It's not like we take the same route to the same place every day and we know exactly how long the drives are, whether there's construction en route, and god forbid there's an accident or something unpredictable.


can you post the name of the company? i want to forward it to 4chan so they can troll them into oblivion.

no matter though, they will fail eventually anyway... unless they can make it far enough that robots become cheap enough to replace humans. thats what these companies see their employees as anyway.

Maybe Darko should consider taking personal responsibility for making sure he's on time for work and leave early just in case of traffic issues.


FuckSide is definitely taking up vast amounts of real-estate in your head.

Lots of empty space.

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What the hell?? They have some kind of ignition timer on the truck?

There's a gps device that also works as a paging device, so my task codes and materials lists are uploaded to the shop from me at the truck, and they send me my next job site and task to the device, it also sends my ignition status, speed, heading and location.

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Or Michael Ferro's amazingly quick destruction of the suntimes, from a profitable paper to about to be shuttered for good in two short years:

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The candy room didn't work?!?!?

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Depends on the goal: if Ferro's goal was continued, profitable operation of the SunTimes, then, yeah, a candy room was a symbol of his misguided efforts. But if he was looking to attract sweet young things, like a creeper in a windowless van...? "Ferro's Angels" as the Chicago Mag profile termed them.

Robert Feder's been tracking Wrapports/Suntimes drain swirl all year. It appeared to be coming to a head in his recent posts re: Wrapports trying to sell off the (now worthless) suburban publications and the provisional plan to dump about 1/3rd of the remaining full-time Suntimes staff sometime early next year.

Neither plan seemed at all viable: Wrapports/Ferro gutted the suburban newspapers, shut-down their offices and laid off folks unwilling to trek downtown (and even some willing to make the trek). All someone buying, say, the Joliet Herald-News would get is a dwindling subscriber list, the nameplate and a smattering of disaffected employees without offices--and a huge stack of bills. What could that possibly be worth? Maybe the newspaper's archive has some value, but the Joliet paper doesn't even have a distinct web presence that could be transferred in a sale, as it's a subdomain of suntimes.com.

Laying off 1/3rd of the overall employees still at the Suntimes after 2 years of constant cuts + top employees leaving for places like DNAInfo and just GettingTFO (Sean Jensen, Thomas Conner, Terry Savage etc) is even less likely to succeed.

But as long as the newspaper(s) continue(s) the losses continue. After buying the then profitable suntimes in December 2011 and slowly gutting it/chasing away anyone of value, Ferro at this point is asking someone to take over losing something north of $2 mil a month on an ongoing basis--not gonna happen.

I'm assuming that's the reason Ferro finally gave up and agreed to a new union contract recently is that he doesn't expect the paper to be operational much longer and so agreeing to a new union deal is mostly meaningless. http://www.chicagonewsguild.org/ Also likely an attempt to reduce the legal bills he had to be racking up fighting NLRB charges and fired employee lawsuits. Does he really expect any photographer to forgo their right to sue for a mere $2,000?

The talk of former Repub Senator candidate Jack or Jake Ryan's 22nd Century media buying pieces of the Suntimes suburban ops is overly optimistic. Ryan doesn't want to take on the headaches of unionized workers when he can simply take over the turf the defunct Suntimes vacates and have his own people run things.

Same thing for the notion that the Tribune company would even consider buying the headaches and ongoing losses of the Suntimes. The Tribune has been cutting its workforce in major ways and is looking to sell off all newspaper ops themselves. Suntimes going under immediately makes the Chicago Tribune more valuable--without having to assume the obligations and debts of the Suntimes. Candy rooms or no.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:32 pm 
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Baby McNown wrote:
IkeSouth wrote:
Darkside wrote:
At my job, you can start at any location in northern illinois... I've had to start in Gurnee and Harvard, Aurora and Genoa and all points in between including the fucking city (hate working there) and you have to be there at 8 am. No exceptions. None.
At my 6 month review last year, they told me that over the previous 6 months I was a total of 12 minutes late. Once was because I got sent the wrong address (gave me a McHenry address instead of a Johnsburg address, not exactly my fault, 9 minutes late) and 3 individual instances of being 1 minute late. That means my truck ignition was turned off at 8:01 instead of 8:00. Three times. And they noted it.
At my 1 year review they said I was a total of 4 minutes late the next six months. One instance, 4 minutes. Got stuck behind a nasty tbone right in front of me at 22 and 14 in Fox River Grove.
It's absolutely ridiculous that they give us shit for that kind of stuff. It's not like we take the same route to the same place every day and we know exactly how long the drives are, whether there's construction en route, and god forbid there's an accident or something unpredictable.


can you post the name of the company? i want to forward it to 4chan so they can troll them into oblivion.

no matter though, they will fail eventually anyway... unless they can make it far enough that robots become cheap enough to replace humans. thats what these companies see their employees as anyway.

Maybe Darko should consider taking personal responsibility for making sure he's on time for work and leave early just in case of traffic issues.


FuckSide is definitely taking up vast amounts of real-estate in your head.

Hmmmmmm another post about somebody taking up space in my head. Boy, a lot of you sure really seem to care and have a huge interest in what I say and who I'm talking about. You would think that if they didn't they would just put me on ignore. Or shut the fuck up. But no. There I am in their head. Enjoy your day.


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Hmmmmmm another post about somebody taking up space in my head. Boy, a lot of you sure really seem to care and have a huge interest in what I say and who I'm talking about. You would think that if they didn't they would just put me on ignore. Or shut the fuck up. But no. There I am in their head. Enjoy your day.


It must be crowded in that head of yours!

So many people taking up vast swaths of territory. It makes sense that you don't have much space for your own thoughts or any thoughts ,for that matter.


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Im a little late to this discussion...


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Im a little late to this discussion...

Step into my office.

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