Boilermaker Rick wrote:
24_Guy wrote:
Now, I'm going to lose all faith in you Rick, if you tell me you believe in the hot hand.
There are logical reasons to believe that a player can play at a better than expected level for a relatively short time period. They may have been able to temporarily suppress a bad habit, or the league may not have enough information on them to take advantage of their weaknesses, or it may just be flat out confidence in himself and from his teammates.
Let's take Joe Flacco last year in the playoffs. If he was really that amazing of a quarterback, why doesn't he ever come close to that? Was it just random luck that for a complete playoff season he was as good as just about any quarterback has ever been in the playoffs? The answer clearly is not that he actively chose to be better. So, it was either random luck, or there are periods in a career where you can play much better than your baseline level of production indicates.
Agree with your definition of the "hot hand". But we also agree that is has an expiration date. So here's the debate from Trestman's POV (aside from whatever politics might be involved):
Hot hand was just OK on the road against mediocre STL defense
Hot hand was just OK on the road against bad 31st-worst MINN defense
Hot hand was very hot at home against 32nd-worst DAL defense
Up next: on the road against 7th ranked defense.
You know Cinderella is turning into a pumpkin at some point (yes I said it that way on purpose). If you continue with the hot hand, when do you decide it's gone cold? What if the Bears are down 7-0 after qtr 1? Too soon? What if it's 17-3 at halftime? At that point you're giving the Great Cutler one half to overcome a 14 point deficit. He's likely be rusty anyway, so, I'd rather he get 4 quarters and a 0-0 score then have him come to the rescue later.
Regarding runs like Flacco's - I don't like the word luck, but, there is certainly statistical variance, and it can swing wider than people think. Roulette wheels can have runs of 6,7,8 in a row black or red several times in an hour. People think that's highly unlikely, but it's really not.
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Beyond the simple Cutler vs. McCown dynamic, this shows why statistics and the guys who spout them are usually bullshit. bernstein only uses Scott in Davenport to support the narratives he has already selected. And that doesn't make bernstein an anomaly. It's like Vince Scully said, "Statistics are often used as a drunk uses a lamppost- for support rather than illumination." Pretty much it comes down to this: Statistics are everything. Until they aren't.
I don't think I've heard that quote before; that's a great one.
It goes both ways though. There are some people that will suddenly abandon stats for "the eye test". "I don't care what the numbers say, just look how he plays!" Stats have a function but they are rarely perfect and often not even close to it.