I ask the question because the biggest issue with Grossman prior to last season was his durability. I find it odd that he's now considered an iron man, after finally making it through one season intact (out of four previous tries.)

Now everyone's worried he's going to be inconsistent... what if he just gets hurt this year, and the question of his ability remains unanswered for another season?

Pointless questions? Yes, but I just wanted to be on record predicting a Grossman injury.

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Unfortunately, I sense the same thing about Hester. I'm waiting to see how he takes a real hit after catching a pass...

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He'll play all year. He's not injury prone.

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Whether you like a player or not, that's a pretty ignorant sentiment.

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You're a bloody moron! Where's you're sense at, friend? Perhaps you're feeling froggy. Perhaps. Yes?
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I dont think he will get injured, but I do believe the Bears will have a better chance of winning the SB if he does

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Lunatic! Rex is the best chance for them to win, that's why Lovie plays him. Ninny!
Now, if Rex got hurt and Griese played, well then that may be the only way they have of winning anything!

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So who is better than Rex? Griese or orton?

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if he keeps dropping snaps, he wont get injured. he'll get murdered by a fan.

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LOL im not sold on the Orton kool aid. Griese definitely. I think alot of people forget just how bad Orton was.

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orton was a rookie with a limited playbook that year. he did all that was needed of him for the most part, except for that browns game.

i dont believe he's ever dropped a snap either

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Yeah but he simply wasnt capable of making alot of throws that even average QBs make. To me it was not a question of mental mistakes being a rookie, more a question of talent. I could be wrong, but I doubt we will find out because "Rex is our quarterback"

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Rex is our Quarterback.

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The worst thing that could happen to the Bears this year (long-term) is an injury to Rex Grossman.

That would simply prolong the judgment on him for another season, perhaps even two, unless of course the injury occurred late in the season. Such an injury would create a lot of nasty contract issues, etc.

Short-term? It's harder to be objective here. Personally, I'm not a fan of Rex; yet I still feel he gives the team its best chance to win at the moment. I like Orton still as a developmental player; I would like Griese in certain close games, where success requires more patience than talent.

But I like Rex when the team needs to throw a bomb to win. I just don't trust him in the clutch.

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Kyle Orton can make every throw that Rex can. He wasn't drafted to play until year 3 or 4. He was thrown into a situation that was over his head. Kyle Orton will be a starting NFL QB within the next two years, whether it is with the Bears or not.

I still think that Orton is still another year away from being ready to be a full time starter but you can't judge a player based off of his play in his rookie year.

Rex is the best chance to win, but he's not the only chance to win. The Bears win or lose based off of the defense and special teams.

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I think you've got some rose colored Purdue glasses on when it comes to Orton. He was screwed up from his last year in college and I think forcing him to play his rookie year might have done him in.

The last player I had Purdue colored glasses on for was Drew Brees when he was cut by the Chargers. I don't think Orton will reach those levels but in college he was great. I give him the benefit of the doubt for the senior season as he was "supposedly" injured. His game at Notre Dame was one of the best performances I ever seen by a Purdue QB, including any game from Drew Brees.

I hope Rex Grossman finds a way to be consistent every game and Kyle Orton doesn't play but he will get his chance. Orton will be a starting QB in the league again.

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The last two times that it is a fair comparison is senior year of college and rookie year. Kyle Orton was just as accurate and just as strong of an arm(if not stronger in college). I think they both have strong arms and are accurate but everyone acts like because Orton didn't really show it as a rookie that he doesn't have it. In college he would throw it 30 yards down field with touch 5 times a game. He wasn't ready to handle NFL defenses out of college and that's why he was a fourth round pick.

I don't think that Rex Grossman was any further along during his 3rd season in the league. I'm not trying to bash Grossman but to think that Orton doesn't have a strong arm and accuracy means that you didn't really watch Purdue in college. He wasn't ready to show it during his rookie year, but his time will come.

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I don't think either one is or will be a great QB. Nor will they ever lead a team to a championship.

You guys are both nuts.

20 days or less...

I think you all missed the obvious answer to "When will Rex get injured?"
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Not soon enough

Bad karma for a first post, guy.

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No shit stink, and bumping an old thread on top of it...

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Well, there's bound to be some from time to time. I apologize, I like spicy food.

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Orton has a live arm. From what I've seen, Orton's arm strength is about equal with Grossman's. Grossman's arm strength is above average (but comparisons to Favre etc are ridiculous.)

Observers often mistake a quick throwing motion with arm strength. I think evaluation of Grossman has often failed on this point--- just because he gets rid of the ball quickly doesn't mean he's firing bullets every passing down.

I sort of agree with you on accuracy, because I think Orton is a fundamentally inaccurate quarterback. On deep throws, he was lousy as a rookie. The fact that he routinely put the ball far in front of receivers, however, proves that he has a strong arm. If he was throwing balloons, Terrell, Wade, and Bradley would have caught up with them.

In terms of accuracy, Grossman's streakiness lowers his accuracy to Orton's level. Grossman has more natural talent in that area, but he reminds me of Scott Skiles's assessment of Kirk Hinrich: Grossman rides the confidence-wave while playing: if he makes some passes, he makes some more. If he misses some passes, he misses even more.

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