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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:32 pm 
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There is not going to be enough money to sign/tag Cutler and fix the defense. In all likelihood there is not enough money to fix the defense in one offseason anyway.


Totally disagree. Not sure if you have seen all of the deals expiring (specifically on the defense), but there will be plenty. Simply getting replacement level type players in there would make a huge difference.


Emery gambled on the "no extensions" thing, and it paid off with just about every single player he didn't extend. Saved the Bears a ton of money.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:34 pm 
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The Bears can free up $10mm alone if they cut Peppers.


Edit: and it looks like they have $45mm cap space as it stands right now. The only guys on offense to extend would be the QBs, and Slauson. And replace Garza.


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You can fix the defense immediately by simply drafting better. Money on free agents comes later, and should ideally be spent on pieces that complement a core that is composed of at least two rookie/second year mainstays.

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Not what I said, but keep jumping to conclusions.

The defense is the biggest problem with this team, and has been since week 2/3. The QB has been a problem at times, but is not the biggest issue. It is, however, the most polarizing issue so that is what will be made of it. Why would fans not want to fix the biggest problem with this team? Why would fans not want to talk about that. Defense has lost 3 road games against last place teams this season. If the Bears had won just two of those, the division would be wrapped up.

Most people who don't like Jay Cutler fail to realize that he is not the biggest problem with the Bears right now. Its the defense. Honestly, I don't know how you meatheads don't realize this?!.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Not what I said, but keep jumping to conclusions.

The defense is the biggest problem with this team, and has been since week 2/3. The QB has been a problem at times, but is not the biggest issue. It is, however, the most polarizing issue so that is what will be made of it. Why would fans not want to fix the biggest problem with this team? Why would fans not want to talk about that. Defense has lost 3 road games against last place teams this season. If the Bears had won just two of those, the division would be wrapped up.

Most people who don't like Jay Cutler fail to realize that he is not the biggest problem with the Bears right now. Its the defense. Honestly, I don't know how you meatheads don't realize this?!.

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I think the coach lost the November Lions game also.


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I've changed my mind on this.

Unless Cutler is good to very good in beating the Packers and then, likely, also very good in winning a playoff game, the Bears should let him go.

I thought after the Cleveland game the furor would die down but it has not. Cutler is pretty close to not being able to win back a good portion of the fanbase which will lead to far too much team distraction going forward in years to come.

He's been Ditka'd. The drama around him is likely to wear this team and coaching staff out.


If management lets that dictate decisions they are making then they should clean out their offices right now. There is still a lot that he can do to turn things around and if the price is right you don't let him walk because of the fans.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I've changed my mind on this.

Unless Cutler is good to very good in beating the Packers and then, likely, also very good in winning a playoff game, the Bears should let him go.

I thought after the Cleveland game the furor would die down but it has not. Cutler is pretty close to not being able to win back a good portion of the fanbase which will lead to far too much team distraction going forward in years to come.

He's been Ditka'd. The drama around him is likely to wear this team and coaching staff out.


If management lets that dictate decisions they are making then they should clean out their offices right now. There is still a lot that he can do to turn things around and if the price is right you don't let him walk because of the fans.


Media is a real issue with professional teams. I clarified later. This can be a distraction and detriment to the team on an on-going basis.

People don't like him. That is fodder for sports media. That feeds back to the team. It won't stop at this point unless Cutler does something memorable.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Nas wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I've changed my mind on this.

Unless Cutler is good to very good in beating the Packers and then, likely, also very good in winning a playoff game, the Bears should let him go.

I thought after the Cleveland game the furor would die down but it has not. Cutler is pretty close to not being able to win back a good portion of the fanbase which will lead to far too much team distraction going forward in years to come.

He's been Ditka'd. The drama around him is likely to wear this team and coaching staff out.


If management lets that dictate decisions they are making then they should clean out their offices right now. There is still a lot that he can do to turn things around and if the price is right you don't let him walk because of the fans.


Media is a real issue with professional teams. I clarified later. This can be a distraction and detriment to the team on an on-going basis.

People don't like him. That is fodder for sports media. That feeds back to the team. It won't stop at this point unless Cutler does something memorable.


Exactly right. Lack of media & fan relations were a significant factor in Emery letting Lovie go. Bears brass grew increasingly uncomfortable with his confrontational style & assholery. Having said that, if you win, all is good.

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Rosey's column today:

Stevie Sunshine is here to wish you a happy Boxing Day and to bring you the gift of, well, sunshine.

I have found the upside of the Bears’ joke of a defense. No lie.

I have unearthed the one positive from the historically pathetic run defense. True fact.

I have discovered the one faint bit of optimism from the linebackers and safeties (and if you switched them, would it matter?).

And that ray of sunshine is this:

Jay Cutler is forced to prove his worth when it matters.

He didn’t come close to proving anything in Philadelphia. With a playoff berth begging to be clinched, Cutler completed 20 of 35 for 222 yards, a TD and a pick, and a quarterback rating of 73.8.

At one point in the first half, the Eagles had 149 yards and Cutler’s offense had four. Yes, four.

The happy and potentially revealing by-product is Cutler’s opportunity to prove it against the Packers with the NFC North title and a playoff spot still at stake.

Be clutch or be gone.

If he stinks against the Bears’ biggest rival the way he usually does, then the Bears should have serious concerns about using even the franchise tag, not to mention spending Tony Romo-Matthew Stafford-Unmet Potential money.

But if Cutler gives the Bears the game they need in a situation they must have, then their Hope-O-Meter pushes into plus territory.

This isn’t Jay Cutler vs. Josh McCown. This is Cutler vs. the money. Cutler vs. a Super Bowl quarterback.

This season always has been about Cutler. He was coming out of contract as he was walking into a new offense constructed by a quarterback whisperer. Could Marc Trestman develop Cutler into the franchise quarterback that general manager Phil Emery believes he is.

He is a stock. An IPO with a cannon arm. Is he worth the price?

Cutler has never had this kind of coach and these kinds of weapons entering a game against the Packers. He should fare better. He should be terrific, in fact. That’s the idea.

But if he isn’t, then why bother going further, especially at that price?

Remember, too, Emery believes playoffs are a regular expectation. He fired a coach because he failed to reach the postseason regularly. It follows that re-hiring a quarterback at an elite cost would involve that criterion, as well.

The defense isn’t going to magically improve. The Bears remain a team forced to outscore its own defensive ineptitude. That starts with Cutler.

That’s what Sunday’s game is all about. In many ways, Bears-Packers for the division crystallizes an important aspect of Cutler’s value. This is the kind of game that gets you paid.

Or doesn’t.

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Exactly right. Lack of media & fan relations were a significant factor in Emery letting Lovie go. Bears brass grew increasingly uncomfortable with his confrontational style & assholery. Having said that, if you win, all is good.
No, it wasn't. YOU grew uncomfortable with Lovie coming across as a prick. He was let go because his teams kept missing the playoffs. If the Bears made the playoffs last year Lovie would still be the coach regardless of how he acted.

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Scorehead wrote:
Exactly right. Lack of media & fan relations were a significant factor in Emery letting Lovie go. Bears brass grew increasingly uncomfortable with his confrontational style & assholery. Having said that, if you win, all is good.
No, it wasn't. YOU grew uncomfortable with Lovie coming across as a prick. He was let go because his teams kept missing the playoffs. If the Bears made the playoffs last year Lovie would still be the coach regardless of how he acted.


Emery made numerous comments that very strongly and clearly hinted that the organization wanted to be more media and fan friendly and not be confrontational. Media members have also said this. Lovie was gone, playoffs or not.

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It had nothing to do with the media, Scorehead. Bill Bellichek is confrontational and acts like a jagoff with the media, and he isn't getting fired. I'll give you this, you are at least consistently wrong.

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