The he'd be playing right field for the Cubs this year...

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Mac wrote:


For an employer or manager, this is probably the worst kind of employee. A shitty employee who, after being talked to time again about their performance and told what they need to do to improve, remains an obliviously shitty employee.

FWIW Mac, I thought you and Jurko did a very good show earlier in the week. I'm not a big fan of the three-man booth whether I'm watching a game or listening to a talk show.

Killer V -- love your av!

As has been previously mentioned, I'm not a fan of the 3-man booth, either and I've NEVER liked Harry on the show. I do believe, however, given Jurko's incosistent ability to stay awake, that a 3rd persona is SOMETIMES needed... and that 3rd person should serve as a counterpunch to Mac. This person would need to have sack and not be afraid to call out Mac when appropriate... also being a Cub fan would probably be a good idea. The problem is Harry does not fill this role very well. He may watch a lot of sports and be a Cub fan, but he's an idiot and more notably, he's proven that he uses the show for his personal alternate agenda of wanting to be a comic. Harry simply has yet to accept the reality that he is not funny.

I was the same way a while back too and defended him a bit on this board. Not because I enjoyed him that much on the radio, but because I didn't agree with the harsh things that were said at the time. That's no longer the case and something has changed with Harry drastically in the last few months. It's almost as if he's trying to push the limits at times by being "extra Harry-ish" recently. Is he trying to get canned? Sometimes it has seemed that way. What's growin on and Mr. Skin have always sucked, but he's reached a whole new level lately and it needs to stop. I just don't know if I see that happening at this point.

But Jurko does wake up and does a MUCH better job when it is a 2 man booth, and especially when it's just him and Mac. He's completely different and on his game. Harry has made me laugh on occasion but it's never with the canned bits or stupid sayings he makes, it's the sometimes off the cuff and witty comments he'll make off of something Mac or Jurko says. Either way that small contribution I used to see and defend with him is so completely overshadowed by New Harry that any positive doesn't matter.

I got a better idea: let's promote him out of the way. I see a lovely 12-3 slot. There's nobody "star" in there right now, nor do I see anyone "star" being produced from the well of fill-ins we've heard thus far, both pre- and post-departure Dan Patrick. Fine, so we can line Harry up versus Murph. Given as how neither do hardcore sportstalk, that's fine. Who do you want as his cohost? We got Hoodie; we got Chester. I pull for Chester. And everything will resolve itself in short order, thereafter...

Done! (dusts hands off) What else do we need to solve today?

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Middle Aged Crazy, like Uncle Terry

Mac is simply implementing a piece from Good Dolphin's Show Suggestions.

1. Create a common enemy

My thoughts only went as deep as making management or some sports figure the enemy. However, I forgot to think about how effective a radio war could be at getting listeners. The Dahl v Lujac, Stern v. Mancow, fights were great for bringing up the ratings of both shows. We are in untested waters of starting a war within a single show, but that may just be genius beyond my comprehension.

Again, that invoice will be sent in the september billing period.

Sounds like an agree to disagree situation. I understand and agree we are a very very small percentage of the listeners, thus my use of microcosm. I still feel like the percentages on this board roughly equate to the larger listening audience in terms of proportion and percentage. I think alot of the opinions expressed on this board reflect those of the majority of listeners. Just 2 days ago I was in goodyear getting some car maintenence done and was overhearing 4 or 5 guys talking sports radio. They more or less agreed that... North can be good, but 90% of the show is bullshit and he is not the same North from the 90's, Harry is bringing down the show with his cubbie love and he is the least likeable on the show, and B&B are very smart and knowledgeable when it comes to sports, but hold it over listener's heads and act above the common people. All of these sentiments can be largely seen by posters on this board. I am not saying this reinforces my beliefs completely, just a little bit of anecdotal evidence as to why I feel this way.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Just great. Sounds like we're soon to have more time where Mac's away and Harry will play .

It's also VERY curious that they are doing the rotating 3rd man this week instead of what I remember them normally doing where they'll just have Hood or JD for the whole time. It's almost as if they're doing tryouts this week with Mac and Jurko.

How many listeners to the show even know this board exists? Even if they do, would most of them take the time to register for an account and post their thoughts?
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They can talk to us or talk to another minuscule minority, the guys who go to the remotes. Can't be helped that the majority of listeners are silent. LOL. Nielsen survives because of that

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Middle Aged Crazy, like Uncle Terry

Nice email Frank!

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SideshowBob311: "Sadly enough, I think we're the "intelligent" portion of the sports radio fanbase".
"I make fun of whoever sucks, including me"- Harry 11/30/07

I agree with these sentiments. What eliminates us (csfmb) from being a viable sample to take input is that most of us are really into sports radio. The majority of the listeners to MJH (or any show, for that matter) probably don't care enough to post 2000 times about the show. The majority of the listeners are casual fans, and are probably have different interests than MJH fans (very broad brush, i know). The trick is for the show to pick up as many casual listeners while not alienating the loyal listeners. I'm not a big Harry fan, but I understand that he serves a purpose in the same vain that Mike Greenberg serves a purpose on Mike and Mike. For example, my wife loves Greenie, and she loves Tiny. She listens to both shows and probably wouldn't if the dynamic that those two add wasn't there for their respective shows. I suspect she's not the only one in that boat.

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"Tubby? Oh yes, Tubby."

They ain't the mannilest men in the world.

She's not the target demographic. I think that says something about both shows and their problems.

the point was that each member of each show brings something different to the table that attracts listeners.

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"Tubby? Oh yes, Tubby."

All ingredients are needed to satisfy my sportsradio appetite.

Mac is the 1/2 lb burger.

Jurko is the oozing cheese.

Harry is the wilting lettuce.

Finji and D-Zed are the bun - that hold the show together.

Brother needs some ratings!

If your guy North said half the shit Mac said on the air at ESPN1000 he would not only be suspended non stop, but he would no longer be employed. I am not saying I agree with ESPN1000, cuz their management has shit for brains, but Mac has done a decent job providing edgy entertaining radio considering the extra restrictions

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

true enough, but North sucks and is a D-bag, and Mac is entertaining, all is forgiven

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Thats a great point, I agree

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Great post! Excellent point! Are you trying to win a golf outing????

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SideshowBob311: "Sadly enough, I think we're the "intelligent" portion of the sports radio fanbase".
"I make fun of whoever sucks, including me"- Harry 11/30/07

It really is too bad that Jiggs wife stepped in.

But I'm sure little Sally Bernstein is used to hiding behind women.

Mac:

Enjoy the show. So please consider the following

1) The "Suits at ESPN ain't Mr. Annie Maxfield. be very careful
2) Harry sucks, but let mgt. do their job
3) If your producers can't keep him in line while you are gone, hire one who will
4) You are better and happier on the air, than off. Make sure that your 1st priority is to stay there

Except they aren't good workers, are they? Workers are guys you can send out, wrestling from city to city, doing their feud, for a month or so.

Now, are we constantly set up with antagonistic situations (wrestling "interviews"?) You betcha. I see MJH and Silvy/Waddle got a little mileage out of the DeFalco/Silvy tiff. Pretty soon, you're going accuse Murph of staging that fight with Mully. And if you do, great, because that was pretty contrived.

These guys need Jimmy Cornette or maybe the Weasel to consult/book for them.

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Middle Aged Crazy, like Uncle Terry

I hope whatever the differences may be, I hope they get worked out behind the scenes. The last thing I want is no Mac during the first month of the NFL season because of some unnecessary suspension.

While I agree that it would help if MJH were all present for an extended period, B&B didn't come out of nowhere to claim the most recent ratings title. They have been steadily gaining on MJH ever since they replaced North.

I agree with your 2nd point regarding this forum however. The fact is that in most cases when there has been a consensus regarding a show or portion thereof - changes were made by management. I'm not saying we were directly responsible them, but I think we're fairly representative of the listeners they target. Further, I bet there are more frequent viewers within the industry than are acknowledged.

With as many times as Teddy Greenstein and others have mentioned this board in the paper, I would be surprised if less than 75% of WMVP and WSCR personell read this board. It wouldnt make sense not to. I am pretty positive North, B&B and the whole lot of them read this board.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I have noticed Mac especially step it up. When all the complaints came in regarding boring callers, Mac got a little more animated with most callers. It was very clear in my opinion that we directly influence the way they host the show. Mac himself has said we are the firect cause for changes/evolutions in the show.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

for a self-styled macho, man-of-the-people type dude, mac seems to be pretty manipulative and backstabbing. all this drama and the pissing matches are embarrassing.

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"Then Darin Erstad fell down while flying out to center in the sixth and left because of cramps."

With as many media consultants giving their advice for free, they'd be dumb not to listen to us. Of course, our opinions are worth what we charge for them..

But it's either us, or take barometer readings from guys at their remotes (Man-o-meter)

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