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Just realized I don't think I ever have seen 3...pretty sure ever time I tried I only made it up to the Thunderlips part...

You never saw Apollo training Rocky?


That is VITAL to IV's storyline with SPOILER ALERT Apollo dying


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man watching that gets me pumped up. Takes me back to being a kid and seeing the trailer on tv and begging my mom to take me to the theater to see it. The first one I saw on the big screen. Man that was an awesome day! I can still remember my mom saying outloud in the theater, "hit him Rocky, hit him." :lol:

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rogers park bryan wrote:
lipidquadcab wrote:
Just realized I don't think I ever have seen 3...pretty sure ever time I tried I only made it up to the Thunderlips part...

You never saw Apollo training Rocky?


That is VITAL to IV's storyline with SPOILER ALERT Apollo dying

Nope...I knew that happened but never watched it...


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lipidquadcab wrote:
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Just realized I don't think I ever have seen 3...pretty sure ever time I tried I only made it up to the Thunderlips part...

You never saw Apollo training Rocky?


That is VITAL to IV's storyline with SPOILER ALERT Apollo dying

Nope...I knew that happened but never watched it...


Apollo died in IV. M.i.c.k. died in III.


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 Post subject: Re: Rocky Movies
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Here is part 1 of a real good documentary on the Rocky Story. Really enjoyed this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAsACXArEc4

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 Post subject: Re: Rocky Movies
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Couple of tidbits I do not remember hearing before that I learned from the documentary:

-Ivan Drago actually put Rocky in the hospital for like 5 days during the Rocky 4 filming. He hit him so hard in the chest he caused his heart to swell and was in ICU.

-Original plan for Rocky V was for Rocky to die, but the studio refused to go through with that.

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Couple of tidbits I do not remember hearing before that I learned from the documentary:

-Ivan Drago actually put Rocky in the hospital for like 5 days during the Rocky 4 filming. He hit him so hard in the chest he caused his heart to swell and was in ICU.

-Original plan for Rocky V was for Rocky to die, but the studio refused to go through with that.


I remember reading that Stallone nearly drown while filming a training segment, where he was swimming laps in a pool as part of his cardio regiment. I don't recall which film it was for sure, but i thought it was #4.

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RFDC wrote:
Couple of tidbits I do not remember hearing before that I learned from the documentary:

-Ivan Drago actually put Rocky in the hospital for like 5 days during the Rocky 4 filming. He hit him so hard in the chest he caused his heart to swell and was in ICU.

-Original plan for Rocky V was for Rocky to die, but the studio refused to go through with that.


I remember reading that Stallone nearly drown while filming a training segment, where he was swimming laps in a pool as part of his cardio regiment. I don't recall which film it was for sure, but i thought it was #4.

I couldn't find anything about something like that.

But I did find a wiki listing of film accidents throughout the years.

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Rocky IV (1985). Demanding a sense of realism in the boxing match between Rocky Balboa and Ivan Drago, Sylvester Stallone and Dolph Lundgren agreed to legitimately spar with each other. Stallone was airlifted from Canada to St. John's Hospital in Santa Monica, California, and placed on intensive care for eight days after Lundgren delivered a hard punch to his chest, causing his heart to swell and his blood pressure to exceed 200

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 Post subject: Re: Rocky Movies
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
lipidquadcab wrote:
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lipidquadcab wrote:
Just realized I don't think I ever have seen 3...pretty sure ever time I tried I only made it up to the Thunderlips part...

You never saw Apollo training Rocky?


That is VITAL to IV's storyline with SPOILER ALERT Apollo dying

Nope...I knew that happened but never watched it...


Apollo died in IV. M.i.c.k. died in III.


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 Post subject: Re: Rocky Movies
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I haven't watched "Rocky Balboa". Any good?

Its good. Not earth shatteringly awesome but respectable. Worth a watch if only to get the taste of V off your palate


Finally broke down and watched Rocky Balboa today. I have to say - it was pretty damn good as a Rocky movie.

If you setup your level of suspension of disbelief to general Rocky movie levels, then it puts a very nice cap on the whole series. If only we could pretend V never happened, perfect series.

But, I couldn't believe I was actually starting to buy that "sure, it could go down that way" as the movie went on. Plus, there were a couple solid scenes with him and his kid or him and Paulie.

It was like a Rocky All-Star game, giving you bits and pieces of stuff you liked in a nice, little movie.

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Glad you took that step Doc.

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 Post subject: Re: Rocky Movies
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RFDC wrote:

Pretty solid list.

One I would add to it would be the flash back scene that takes place in IV after Adrian tells him he cannot win. Driving around with No Easy Way out playing.


Oh man, Rocky 4 had a runtime of around 90 minutes and it feels as if 35 minutes of that is comprised of montages, whether training or flashback ones. In fact, the "No Easy Way Out" montage had footage from earlier in the film.


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 Post subject: Re: Rocky Movies
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
pittmike wrote:
I haven't watched "Rocky Balboa". Any good?

Its good. Not earth shatteringly awesome but respectable. Worth a watch if only to get the taste of V off your palate


Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Finally broke down and watched Rocky Balboa today. I have to say - it was pretty damn good as a Rocky movie.

If you setup your level of suspension of disbelief to general Rocky movie levels, then it puts a very nice cap on the whole series. If only we could pretend V never happened, perfect series.

The Movie acted like V never happened. Nothing referenced at all.


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But, I couldn't believe I was actually starting to buy that "sure, it could go down that way" as the movie went on.

I dont see what is so far fetched about it. I mean, look at Foreman.

Probably the worst part is Dixon kinda wanting the ref to stop the fight. That was weird.


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Plus, there were a couple solid scenes with him and his kid or him and Paulie.

It was like a Rocky All-Star game, giving you bits and pieces of stuff you liked in a nice, little movie.

Yeah, life can knock you out speech was great.

And Paulie is always hilarious.


Also, I got a kick out of Max Kellerman's commentary about how he couldnt believe he was calling a Rocky fight. Kind of a wink at the audience there.


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RFDC wrote:

Pretty solid list.

One I would add to it would be the flash back scene that takes place in IV after Adrian tells him he cannot win. Driving around with No Easy Way out playing.


Oh man, Rocky 4 had a runtime of around 90 minutes and it feels as if 35 minutes of that is comprised of montages, whether training or flashback ones. In fact, the "No Easy Way Out" montage had footage from earlier in the film.

:lol:

Only a true CLASSIC could pull that off


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RFDC wrote:

Pretty solid list.

One I would add to it would be the flash back scene that takes place in IV after Adrian tells him he cannot win. Driving around with No Easy Way out playing.


Oh man, Rocky 4 had a runtime of around 90 minutes and it feels as if 35 minutes of that is comprised of montages, whether training or flashback ones. In fact, the "No Easy Way Out" montage had footage from earlier in the film.


And previous films in the series, too. Only 10 minutes of new footage was shot for Rocky IV and then put in a loop with some scenic shots of mountains and racing cars.


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And previous films in the series, too. Only 10 minutes of new footage was shot for Rocky IV and then put in a loop with some scenic shots of mountains and racing cars.

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And previous films in the series, too. Only 10 minutes of new footage was shot for Rocky IV and then put in a loop with some scenic shots of mountains and racing cars.

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Dudeski....you know it's true.

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 Post subject: Re: Rocky Movies
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Probably the worst part is Dixon kinda wanting the ref to stop the fight. That was weird.


I missed that part.


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Also, I got a kick out of Max Kellerman's commentary about how he couldnt believe he was calling a Rocky fight. Kind of a wink at the audience there.


I enjoyed that also. I don't even think Kellerman was acting at that point by the look on his face. He's not that good of an actor.

The only downside of the whole thing was the lack of Stu Nahan. EDIT - which is what I was going to say until I looked up to see when he died and he was apparently the announcer of the computer simulation. I went back and watched it and I would have never recognized it.

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 Post subject: Re: Rocky Movies
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Probably the worst part is Dixon kinda wanting the ref to stop the fight. That was weird.


I missed that part.
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It's after the second knockdown of Rocky. He kinda motions to the ref like WTF and then motions at Rocky


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Also, I got a kick out of Max Kellerman's commentary about how he couldnt believe he was calling a Rocky fight. Kind of a wink at the audience there.


I enjoyed that also. I don't even think Kellerman was acting at that point by the look on his face. He's not that good of an actor.

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[The only downside of the whole thing was the lack of Stu Nahan. EDIT - which is what I was going to say until I looked up to see when he died and he was apparently the announcer of the computer simulation. I went back and watched it and I would have never recognized it.

Yes, and it only leaves Rocky, Tony, and Paulie as the ones alive in all 6 movies

Also LOVE that Adrian died before the movie.


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Yes, and it only leaves Rocky, Tony, and Paulie as the ones alive in all 6 movies


I guess Tony needed a kind of man like that in his life after all.

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Also LOVE that Adrian died before the movie.

Yes. That did set things up nicely for the rest of the movie.

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The main flaw is that it was bad jokes from Skip Bayless that spurred Rocky back to fighting.

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Yes, and it only leaves Rocky, Tony, and Paulie as the ones alive in all 6 movies


I guess Tony needed a kind of man like that in his life after all.

:lol:

How much did Tony make to walk six feet off the plane smiling in IV ?


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Yes, and it only leaves Rocky, Tony, and Paulie as the ones alive in all 6 movies


I guess Tony needed a kind of man like that in his life after all.

:lol:

How much did Tony make to walk six feet off the plane smiling in IV ?


He didn't know it was a damn show. He thought it was a damn flight.

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He didn't know it was a damn show. He thought it was a damn flight.

:lol: :lol: :lol:



By the way the ref was completely worthless in the Apollo Drago fight

First of all you Drago just pushes him away when he's trying to separate them and this is after Drago threw Apollo out of the tie up. if he would have stelped in and reset them as referees are prone to do it's a verydifferent round. Drago only landed 8 punches (granted they were bombs) before the tie up and then he went in for the final 26 after the ref just let him go


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Man,don't you get it? Apollo wanted to go out like a M-A-N! He told that to Rocky.

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They were all good, for different reasons. They fit the time.


We'll have to disagree.

They all were horrid. For the same reasons. They fit nothing except the proverbial little guy's fantasy.

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Man,don't you get it? Apollo wanted to go out like a M-A-N! He told that to Rocky.

He didn't go out as a man. He went out as a punching bag!


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