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 Post subject: The end of CSFMB?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:15 pm 
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http://news.msn.com/science-technology/bye-bye-bile-websites-try-to-nix-nasty-comments

Bye bye, bile? Websites try to nix nasty comments

A growing number of websites are trying everything from deploying moderators to forcing people to use their real names in order to shut down internet trolls.

NEW YORK — Mix blatant bigotry with poor spelling. Add a dash of ALL CAPS. Top it off with a violent threat. And there you have it: A recipe for the worst of online comments, scourge of the Internet.

Blame anonymity, blame politicians, blame human nature. But a growing number of websites are reining in the Wild West of online commentary. Companies including Google and the Huffington Post are trying everything from deploying moderators to forcing people to use their real names in order to restore civil discourse. Some sites, such as Popular Science, are banning comments altogether.

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The efforts put sites in a delicate position. User comments add a lively, fresh feel to videos, stories and music. And, of course, the longer visitors stay to read the posts, and the more they come back, the more a site can charge for advertising.

What websites don't want is the kind of off-putting nastiness that spewed forth under a recent CNN.com article about the Affordable Care Act.

"If it were up to me, you progressive libs destroying this country would be hanging from the gallows for treason. People are awakening though. If I were you, I'd be very afraid," wrote someone using the name "JBlaze."

YouTube, which is owned by Google, has long been home to some of the Internet's most juvenile and grammatically incorrect comments. The site caused a stir last month when it began requiring people to log into Google Plus to write a comment. Besides herding users to Google's unified network, the company says the move is designed to raise the level of discourse in the conversations that play out under YouTube videos.

One such video, a Cheerios commercial featuring an interracial family, met with such a barrage of racist responses on YouTube in May that General Mills shut down comments on it altogether.

"Starting this week, when you're watching a video on YouTube, you'll see comments sorted by people you care about first," wrote YouTube product manager Nundu Janakiram and principal engineer Yonatan Zunger in a blog post announcing the changes. "If you post videos on your channel, you also have more tools to moderate welcome and unwelcome conversations. This way, YouTube comments will become conversations that matter to you."

Related: Online trolls spark Twitter free-speech debate

Anonymity has always been a major appeal of online life. Two decades ago, The New Yorker magazine ran a cartoon with a dog sitting in front of a computer, one paw on the keyboard. The caption read: "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog." At its best, anonymity allows people to speak freely without repercussions. It allows whistle blowers and protesters to espouse unpopular opinions. At its worst, it allows people to spout off without repercussions. It gives trolls and bullies license to pick arguments, threaten and abuse.

But anonymity has been eroding in recent years. On the Internet, many people may know not only your name, but also your latest musings, the songs you've listened to, your job history, who your friends are and even the brand of soap you prefer.

"It's not so much that our offline lives are going online, it's that our offline and online lives are more integrated," says Mark Lashley, a professor of communications at La Salle University in Philadelphia. Facebook, which requires people to use their real names, played a big part in the seismic shift.

"The way the Web was developed, it was unique in that the avatar and the handle were always these things people used to go by. It did develop into a Wild West situation," he says, adding that it's no surprise that Google and other companies are going this route. "As more people go online and we put more of our lives online, we should be held accountable for things we say."

Nearly three-quarters of teens and young adults think people are more likely to use discriminatory language online or in text messages than in face to face conversations, according to a recent poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research and MTV. The poll didn't distinguish between anonymous comments and those with real identities attached.

The Huffington Post is also clamping down on vicious comments. In addition to employing 40 human moderators who sift through readers' posts for racism, homophobia, hate speech and the like, the AOL-owned news site is also chipping away at anonymous commenting. Previously, anyone could respond to an article posted on the site by creating an account, without tying it to an email address. This fall, HuffPo began requiring people to verify their identity by connecting their accounts to an email address, but that didn't appear to be enough and the site now also asks commenters to log in using a verified Facebook account.

"We are reaching a place where the Internet is growing up," says Jimmy Soni, managing editor of HuffPo. "These changes represent a maturing (online) environment."

Soni says the changes have already made a difference in the quality of the comments. The lack of total anonymity, while not a failsafe method, offers people a "gut check moment," he says. There have been "significantly fewer things that we would not be able to share with our mothers," in the HuffPo comments section since the change, Soni says.

Newspapers are also turning toward regulated comments. Of the largest 137 U.S. newspapers - those with daily circulation above 50,000 - nearly 49 percent ban anonymous commenting, according to Arthur Santana, assistant communications professor at the University of Houston. Nearly 42 percent allow anonymity, while 9 percent do not have comments at all.

Curbing anonymity doesn't always help. Plenty of people are fine attaching their names and Facebook profiles to poorly spelled outbursts that live on long after their fury has passed.

In some cases, sites have gone further. Popular Science, the 141-year-old science and technology magazine, stopped allowing comments of any kind on its news articles in September.

While highlighting responses to articles about climate change and abortion, Popular Science online editor Suzanne LaBarre announced the change and explained in a blog post that comments can be "bad for science."

Because "comments sections tend to be a grotesque reflection of the media culture surrounding them, the cynical work of undermining bedrock scientific doctrine is now being done beneath our own stories," wrote LaBarre.

We can't wait to see the response to this story.

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 Post subject: Re: The end of CSFMB?
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If I can change and you can change,maybe we can all change.


As long as we don't change together :oops:


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If I can change and you can change,maybe we can all change.

Fuck off, douchebag.

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Notice how they mention "All Caps" in the 2nd sentence of the story.

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 Post subject: Re: The end of CSFMB?
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If I can change and you can change,maybe we can all change.

Fuck off, douchebag.


I'm offering you a chance to be more then message board guys.

No need to be angry.

Let's meet for pizza & soft drinks.

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 Post subject: Re: The end of CSFMB?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:27 pm 
No. The end of CSFMB is when Darko and Seacrest showed up to post about politics on a sports message board on fucking Christmas, yet I'm sure did not see the irony.


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I'm going to start my own message board. Who's going to join me?

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I'm going to start my own message board. Who's going to join me?

:lol: Woo.... that's gonna go well for you. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: The end of CSFMB?
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No. The end of CSFMB is when Darko and Seacrest showed up to post about politics on a sports message board on fucking Christmas, yet I'm sure did not see the irony.


I thought you had FuckSide on ignore? You've bragged about having DuckSlide on ignore, so you won't have to deal with his stuff....yet you can't stop posting about him, what he posts and when he posts.

You simply can't help yourself.


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Maybe if people didnt fear for their livelihood when they do post or give opinions in a public forum they would do so under their real names.

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 Post subject: Re: The end of CSFMB?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:38 pm 
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No. The end of CSFMB is when Darko and Seacrest showed up to post about politics on a sports message board on fucking Christmas, yet I'm sure did not see the irony.


I thought you had FuckSide on ignore? You've bragged about having DuckSlide on ignore, so you won't have to deal with his stuff....yet you can't stop posting about him, what he posts and when he posts.

You simply can't help yourself.

I see I'm in your head too. Goooood...... Gooood......


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Let's not pretend that moderating and deleting posts is any type of 1st amendment issue.
It's clearly not.
It's probably a good idea for these sites to have moderators. I don't see an issue with that.
Now if the law required moderation, that's a problem.

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No. The end of CSFMB is when Darko and Seacrest showed up to post about politics on a sports message board on fucking Christmas, yet I'm sure did not see the irony.


I thought you had FuckSide on ignore? You've bragged about having DuckSlide on ignore, so you won't have to deal with his stuff....yet you can't stop posting about him, what he posts and when he posts.

You simply can't help yourself.

I see I'm in your head too. Goooood...... Gooood......

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 Post subject: Re: The end of CSFMB?
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Darkside wrote:
Let's not pretend that moderating and deleting posts is any type of 1st amendment issue.
It's clearly not.
It's probably a good idea for these sites to have moderators. I don't see an issue with that.
Now if the law required moderation, that's a problem.


Agreed, brother Darkside.

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 Post subject: Re: The end of CSFMB?
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The Wild West of the internet makes it fun. Fuck the government for trying to shut me up on my sports radio commentary.

Give me liberty or give me death!!!! That's what I say!!!

U.S. Government: Fine. We will now kill you, Beardown.

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 Post subject: Re: The end of CSFMB?
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That's great; can you get me a deal on glasses?

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That's great; can you get me a deal on glasses?


:lol: Of course! I did stay at a Holiday Inn.

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http://news.msn.com/science-technology/bye-bye-bile-websites-try-to-nix-nasty-comments

Bye bye, bile? Websites try to nix nasty comments

A growing number of websites are trying everything from deploying moderators to forcing people to use their real names in order to shut down internet trolls.

NEW YORK — Mix blatant bigotry with poor spelling. Add a dash of ALL CAPS. Top it off with a violent threat. And there you have it: A recipe for the worst of online comments, scourge of the Internet.

Blame anonymity, blame politicians, blame human nature. But a growing number of websites are reining in the Wild West of online commentary. Companies including Google and the Huffington Post are trying everything from deploying moderators to forcing people to use their real names in order to restore civil discourse. Some sites, such as Popular Science, are banning comments altogether
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The obvious references to Panther and chas in the first paragraph of the article clearly show that they feel we need a moderator here.

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 Post subject: Re: The end of CSFMB?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:22 am 
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Maybe if people didnt fear for their livelihood when they do post or give opinions in a public forum they would do so under their real names.

One guy did that. Now he gets really mad when you us his name.


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badrogue17 wrote:
Maybe if people didnt fear for their livelihood when they do post or give opinions in a public forum they would do so under their real names.

One guy did that. Now he gets really mad when you us his name.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:30 am 
Awwwww I'm sorry. Does JK need a group to defend him now too?


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Fuck this article its fuckin gay as SHIT

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