I've finally come to the realization that Jay isn't going anywhere. I've been trying to convince myself otherwise but he will be back.

He did played really well today.

Yep. Get ready for more of the same next year. Big arm, little brain.

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Let's hope Cutler prices himself out of the market and the Bears choose not to franchise him. Let McCown start next year and put that cash towards the defense and draft a QB somewhere from the 2nd to the 5th round who is a fit in the Trestman system.

I've been calling for that for the last two months. Not going to happen. We're fucked.

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Say goodbye to Cutler, Peppers, Hester, Conte, Podlesh, and Mel freaking Tucker.

I'm still pleased with year 1 under the new regime. Defense can't possibly be this bad again next year a with a few new players and a real NFL Defensive coordinator, this D will be average, which is all you need. I can't wait for the draft. Aaron Murray will look great in Trestys offensive system.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

After seeing some of your predictions and statements regarding today's game, I am now convinced Cutler will be back.

It's not just the predictions about today's game, it's just about every prediction he makes. It doesn't matter if it's about sports, politics, or the radio stations. He is almost always wrong.

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Yea I know it's unlikely. Hopefully they don't do anything beyond the franchise tag because no way I see Cutler taking less than 100M for 6 with 40M guaranteed.

Agreed.

Will you also stop calling him "Tresty"? It makes you seem dumber than you already are.

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Yep. He's coming back.

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Yep. He is did went back.

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Here's my gripe: He didn't make any huge mistakes (interception doesn't count) and he played well in the 2nd half but he was missing in the first half. I blame Trestman for most of that BUT if I'm going to give anyone $16M+ a year then they have to be a difference maker. Cutler hasn't been that. IMO talent wise he is a top 5 QB but it doesn't show up consistently and he's never been a difference maker.

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GO BEARS!!!

You don't base your decision on a single game, anyway.

If you're the GM, you take a step back, take a deep breath...

And realize he's always sucked and tell him to get out of your office.

There's the answer.

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What has Cutler done to deserve a huge contract? Absolutely nothing. Ryan, Stafford & Romo all got huge $100 million deals and they haven't done anything either. Teams are foolish to dish out huge $ for a QB unless he wins championships.

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They'll franchise him to see if they can get a D to make this work.

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Thread title updated to reality

That's a lot of money to tie up into a player of his caliber but based on Trestman's love of him you are probably right. If he's coming back I would prefer a team friendly deal but that doesn't appear to be something that will likely happen.

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Well, here's my thought. And maybe I'm old-fashioned.

But, the best QB, by far, that we've had in the last 2-1/2 to 3 decades was a guy that lost his job to the deadly combo of Andre Ware and Rodney Peete. And, depending on your opinion of the punky QB, that might have been the best QB in like 7 decades.

So, please forgive me if I'm hesitant to think we can just find some guy to replace a QB that just set the franchise yard record in about 4 years. Tons of dudes. Shouldn't be a problem.

I guess I'm the only one with a memory.

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Wow, reading that back, it sounded really hostile.

WHO WANTS TO GO ?!???!

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Not you! You're gun shy.

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But Ken, the league has changed. The old days of drafting a QB & having him be the understudy on the bench for a few years are over. Guys are drafted & play right away. I never ever would have trusted Lovie & Tice to draft a QB & coach him up to start right away, but you give an offensive guru like Trestman Arron Murray, Derek Carr, or maybe even Jimmy Garoppolo, & they will put up numbers similar to Cutlers. Teams that settle for mediocrity & who are afraid to improve don't win anything.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

I think that's a terrible way of thinking. You make the best decisiion for the team regardless of the ghosts of management past having trouble with the position.


Also, Cutler is an 85 rtg QB. Always has been. Always will be. Need better than that.

No, the guy who led his team on the winning drive played really well. Jay played like Jay.

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Rodgers didnt play that well overall

He played exactly as well as he needed to. What you said right there is at the heart of the entire thing with Cutler. It's not really about quarterback ratings, passing yards, etc. It's about here's the game on the line. We need to score. Can our guy lead us? And it doesn't get blamed on or credited to a coach, a running back, a receiver. It's the quarterback's game to win or lose. Do you think Cutler is capable? I don't.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Im not a Cutler guy, but im not gonna say Rodgers played great yesterday.

He did play well enough at the end

I think people are significantly overplaying the "league has changed" narrative. Yes a lot of QBs are drafted and play, but a lot of them suck. And aren't going to have a long starting career in the NFL.

The bottom line that is still the same... it's VERY difficult to find a QB that can be your starter for a long time. Just because they are starting, doesn't mean they are good enough to stay starting.

With a good o-line, elite receivers, above-average RB, a quarterback whisperer coach, and league rules that almost guarantee success in the passing game, Cutler put up another sub-90 ratings year (89.2) to continue his history of NEVER surpassing 90. He went 0-2 against two horrible defenses with the season on the line. And he is clearly injury prone. Rewarding him with a multiyear deal would be negligent, but that's how the Bears operate. They are afraid that Marshall will pout without Jay, so they will cave.

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You don't know that. I think anyone paying attention realizes that Trestman wants Cutler because he likes Cutler.


O-Line also isn't even that good. Run blocking was probably "ok" but pass pro is graded very very poorly. They actually graded worse overall than last year. Play calling just suited them better.