Terrible. Absolutely terrible. When Emery and/or Trestman are fired we will look at this as a major reason why.

The only way this deal makes any bit of sense is if you project Jay Cutler to be a top 5 quarterback over the next three years. Putting the future of the franchise in his hands for the next 4-7 years and paying him like Tony Romo is about as dumb of a move as I can remember.

No reason to even draft a quarterback now before the 5th round. Even if that quarterback becomes good it doesn't matter as your team is screwed if Jay Cutler isn't the starter making huge money.

It's hard to overstate just how bad of a position the Bears are in here. This is going to make the Romo and Flacco deals look like bargains. Jay Cutler MUST become a player who is at least in the conversation for being top 5 in the league for this to make any sense. People are already questioning how big of a mistake the Romo and Flacco contracts were and Jay Cutler doesn't have the same resume as either.

It's funny, when they traded for Jay Cutler, I said "In order for this to be a good trade, he'll have to play significantly better than he did in Denver", and then he didn't, and now for this to be a good deal for the Bears, he'll have to play significantly better than he did here. We will look back at the Jay Cutler era as a waste of time where we watched the Bears hover in the middle of the league and a quarterback who got paid a ton of money to produce enough for people to defend him by cherry picking statistics to show he's more than an above average starting quarterback.

This really sets the Bears back long term. To be honest, I would have understood completely the franchise tag for this year. This is indefensible. The Bears gained nothing here. We don't even know if another team would have offered a deal as long and as good as this.

And please, for anyone thinking or wanting to say that I just "hate Jay Cutler" please give me your expectations for him next year and for the first four years of this deal. We'll assume the last 3 years are fake anyways. How many playoff appearances? How many pro bowls? How many years will he outperform Aaron Rodgers? How many years will he outperform Matt Stafford? How many years will he outperform Blake Bortles or whoever Minnesota drafts at QB? To put it another way, if Cutler's next 4 years go as well as his past 4 years will you be happy?

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Your sarcasm brings up a good point. One needs to disreguard his 39-28 regular season record as a Bear, as in many of those games it was the defense that was more responsible for the wins than Cutler.

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This averages out to just over 9 wins per 16-game season.

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The Bulls haven't done anything wrong, and they're not going to do anything wrong.

The first four years of the deal are fake.

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The packers are horrible at covering the middle of the field and te's. all you have to do is see what target is being covered by the lb and throw to him.

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The gentleman from New York makes a strong case

BMR,
Did you copy all that off of a Sporting News article? Very impressive and I agree with you. I would have offered him 3 years at the most. I would have told him,if you walk away you will be labeled "Jeff George_2" by the rest of the league and end up on another bad Raiders team.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

About fucking time you showed up. I'm tired of holding the Cutty sucks fort down .

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

No he doesn't, ha. First, this is a 3 year deal. So drafting a QB makes sense.

Second, this is cheaper than (if you could) franchising him for the next 3 years.

He's also wrong about the Flacco/Romo stuff. He'll get pretty much the same deal over the next 3 years as Romo, Ryan, Flacco, Stafford. That's the group of guys I think Cutler belongs in.

I was planning on staying away for longer if I could.

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Agreed on basically everything with BRick.

Perhaps the most important point is that we don't know what the open market would have yielded for Cutler, but it looks like we just threw money at him. I don't know what number I would have been happy with, but some type of discount would have been in order.

Cutler has nothing on his resume' to warrant this type of years or money. I get tired of saying this over and over and over but "I hope he improves and the deal ends up being a good one." (I've been saying it his entire career).

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Franchising him for 1 year would be cheaper right?

I didnt agree with his draft thing. I subscribe to the draft one every year philosophy


But arent those deals being looked at as terrible?

Last three years games missed by Romo, Ryan, Flacco, Stafford, combined: 1
Last three years games missed by Cutler: 12

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This could be a discount.

There is no justification for paying Cutler 17-18M per year guaranteed for the next 3 years. If you want him back to further evaluate him, then franchise him. If you feel your scheme will allow for a McCown type to perform very well, then save the money and let Cutler go.

But why guarantee him 50M+ when you have a defense that needs impact personnel???

Stupid.

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They dont want him back to evaluate him. They want him. That's why they signed him. They also must not feel like McCown or that type can perform the same over time. That's why they signed Cutler.

There is still a lot of money to fix the defense. Also sounds like Peppers is being debated, but that's me reading between the lines. Jennings was just signed.

Well, I said wait until the fifth round. I was excited by the prospect of a 1st round qb pick. However, that is a waste now. There is no value provided. It's all on Jay Cutler now. Even if that rookie ends up so good he starts in year two the Bears are in such a hole with that money that they might as well get a defensive player who can make a difference from the start. Jay Cutler must be the starter for the next 3 years.

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Again, I agree. Those playoff and Super Bowl winning Steeler, Patriot, Cowboy, and Packer teams all had less talent on both sides of the ball than Cutler has had in his tenure here. I also agree with comparing Cutler to the likes of Brady, Rodgers, or any other current or potential HOF'er.

ESPN article claims this deal will eclipse what Stafford got.

This is almost comical now.

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They should draft Johnny Manziel and let him develop under Cutler for the next 7 years.

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Cutler has produced like a top 15 QB and top 15 QB's shouldn't get $18M a year. This is worse than the tag. You don't tag him so he can provide cap relief.

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GO BEARS!!!

While you were gone the board decided that Cutler is as good and probably better than Stafford

They're better QB's (Flacco isn't but he won a SB).

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GO BEARS!!!

Well, Phil Emery seems to be a good choice for Bears fans.

At least my Jets kept Rex!

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

No we didn't.

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GO BEARS!!!

So I guess it's OK to pay him "big Star QB" money without the results? Hey,am I talking with Phil Emery?

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Agreed.

I'm glad this whole thing can be put to rest now.

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Me too. We did it!