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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:41 am 
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But because of all the means by which they are creating new revenue, the money will be there when it's time to spend.


How do you know this? How do you know they won't continue to pay down debt or simply keep the extra revenues? The only reason they will spend is if they feel it is necessary to keep the fan base from abandoning them.


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I see Ricketts filling the place with a bunch of senior citizens bused in from Iowa with free tickets to buffer things.

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But because of all the means by which they are creating new revenue, the money will be there when it's time to spend.


How do you know this? How do you know they won't continue to pay down debt or simply keep the extra revenues? The only reason they will spend is if they feel it is necessary to keep the fan base from abandoning them.


Because it would be bad business. The money they can charge advertisers on the scoreboard and additional signage, as well as the price of tickets, commercial time, is all going to be greater if the team is doing well. They don't have to worry about vacancies in their yet to be constructed hotel yet. Nor for the advertising on the signage/scoreboard that has yet to be constructed. The timing on all this is really going to be pretty outstanding. The top young players should be becoming major league ready just before all this is in place. That will allow them to take full advantage of them, without having spent foolishly (except Edwin Jackson) before these things were in place. Really, things are going extremely well and the timing is going to be outstanding. If they just kept building through the minors and making trades they might still be able to field a good team, but not a Championship team. To really become the kind of organization that maximizes it's overall worth, they will also utilize free agency to fill whatever holes they need to fill, to them over the top. Winning consistently once it all comes together, will be very good business.

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You'll have to forgive me if I'm not excited for higher ticket prices to go to a park with more advertising to watch a team that still isn't very good. Oh well. Yeah, commerce, bitch!

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It's sad to say but the Cubs were at their best when they were owned by Reinsdorfs buddy,the billygoat looking guy.

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It's sad to say but the Cubs were at their best when they were owned by Reinsdorfs buddy,the billygoat looking guy.


Sam Zell? Well, he did try to win. He was trying to give the team a chance to win a Championship right away, to maximize the value of the team, so he could sell for the most money. He did a pretty good job of raising the club's value, but signing guys like Milton Bradley didn't help. He was certainly willing to spend, but too often it was on guys they would have been wise to pass on. Fukudome was another mistake. Too bad he didn't invest in the farm system (and facilities) as Ricketts has back then. If he had, we would be in a better position today. When you look over the drafts held during Hendry's regime, there isn't a lot to feel good about. I thought at least Castro was one shining light, but that light has dimmed over the past couple years. Keep in mind that a lot of the money Zell committed the team to paying free agents, he knew he wasn't going to have to pay. Signing guys you won't be paying (especially late in their contract, when productivity declines) isn't all that heroic.

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I thought Sam Zell was much too busy fucking up the Tribune to worry about the Cubs' day-to-day operations.

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I thought Sam Zell was much too busy fucking up the Tribune to worry about the Cubs' day-to-day operations.

I think he recognized pretty quickly that the newspaper operation was a losing proposition and made maximizing the value of a tremendous asset a focal point. He did a great job of it too. I'm sorry he couldn't do more for the newspaper. But that industry was well on it's way on the downward spiral that it finds itself today. I still read a hard copy of the newspaper and have it delivered daily. But I am in the minority (a frightening realization) on that and it's an industry that is in great trouble.

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I have no problem with the re-build in general. I just have problems with the Jackson signing and the delay in construction...

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I have no problem with the re-build in general. I just have problems with the Jackson signing and the delay in construction...


I agree. the Jackson signing really bugs me, when I consider how they got the kind of production from that bum, that they could have had from a guy making less than half wis salary, with no long term commitment. I said it well before they signed him, so it's not hindsight. With that money left over, they could have at least bought some new bricks and mortar mix for crying out loud. But I don't think they had the money to do everything (minor league facilities, facilities in the Dominican for their new academy there) they wanted to, as quickly as they wanted. Patience is tough when it's been a lifetime and then some, since the team won a championship. But it's coming together.

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Theo's cool 60 mil wasted in 2 seasons:

52.4 million on Jackson

Ian Stewart-2 million last year

Scot Baker-5.5 million for pitching a handful of games in September.
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59.9 million shot in the ass.

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Theo's cool 60 mil wasted in 2 seasons:

52.4 million on Jackson

Ian Stewart-2 million last year

Scot Baker-5.5 million for pitching a handful of games in September.
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59.9 million shot in the ass.


Edwin Jackson made 52.4 million in 2013?!?!?

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Theo's cool 60 mil wasted in 2 seasons:

52.4 million on Jackson

Ian Stewart-2 million last year

Scot Baker-5.5 million for pitching a handful of games in September.
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59.9 million shot in the ass.
Give Theo a few days off. At least for now, he's not the dumbest executive in Chicago.

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Yeah,he paid him up front to free up cap spa...oh wait! :oops:

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For those who forgot,the next time you see the Bears is in July. Cubs/Sox propaganda starts in February.

I love those stories how a hitter explains why he won't bat .233 again or a pitcher found something in his delivery that caused a 5.90 ERA. reading it since around 1967. Just the names change.

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I thought Sam Zell was much too busy fucking up the Tribune to worry about the Cubs' day-to-day operations.


If Sam Zell hadn't screwed up his opportunity to hire a young Dr. Ken back in the day, ol' Sammy would probably still be a wealthy, successful man to this day.

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