No excuses then.

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I do think it should be left up to the coach more when the season starts with the 53 man roster.

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Would it? The statement said over the 53 man roster. You only get to that point at the end of training camp. I am not sure that means Lovie would be making final decisions on draft picks.

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I generally agree but sometimes there are cap ramifications that a coach doesn't usually care about.

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This doesn't make sense. If he has all say then his title should reflect that he has supervisory powers over the GM and not the other way around. Is Lovie accountable to the owner, or to the person he will eventually hire? The latter makes no sense at all.

It's not clear to me how much of a role he had in Chicago's drafts, but those got progressively worse over the years so that'd be a concern if I'm Tampa.

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Lovie’s final say could make it harder to get a G.M.
Posted by Mike Florio on January 5, 2014, 4:31 PM EST
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Whenever a team has vacancies at both coach and General Manager and hires the coach first, the message becomes clear.

The coach will be running the show.

Coach Lovie Smith will indeed be running the show in Tampa. According to Adam Schefter of ESPN, Smith’s contract gives the former Bears coach final say “over all personnel matters.” This presumably includes the draft, free agency, and the crafting of the final 53-man roster.

Giving that power to Smith could make it harder to hire a General Manager. For starters, any G.M. who wants final say won’t want the job.

There’s another potential issue. If the Buccaneers want to offer a promotion to a front-office employee from another team, the job needs to entail final say over personnel or the candidate’s current team can block the move.

Whether that would happen with leading candidate Chris Ballard, the director of pro personnel in Kansas City, remains to be seen. Last year, the Packers didn’t block John Dorsey from leaving for the Chiefs, even though coach Andy Reid presumably has final say over personnel.

Regardless of the contractual niceties, Lovie Smith will be doing something he didn’t do in Chicago, where G.M. Jerry Angelo and then (for a year) G.M. Phil Emery ran the roster. The key will be for Smith and his G.M. to work together, making consensus decisions that won’t entail Smith having to play his trump card.

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I think Angelo was fired first because he had complete control.

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That can be true, but most moves made during the season involve the bottom ten guys of a roster when adjusting for injuries and special team needs with a bunch of minimum pay players. While there should be checks to protect against long term decisions, in general the coaches should be left alone on these types of things.

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What decisions would Lovie have made that Angelo didn't. We know Archuleta was a Lovie decision.

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I have no idea. Im just talking from a general philosophy of once the season starts, it should be pretty much up to the coach how he runs his active roster and practice squad.

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Some NFL franchises just cant get out of their own way & the Tampa Bay Bucs are one of those teams. There are plenty of young, dynamic talented College football coaches out there, yet they choose Mr. mediocrity. The Bucs organization & the fans will be ready to fire him by year 3.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

would you have fired him here in Chicago after three years once you discovered he was over promoted?

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No. The Bears were 29-19 during Lovies first 3 years, but the Bears made the playoffs just one season out of Lovies last 6 years as Bears head coach. Lovie is the very definition of a peter principle guy.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

Like Greg Schiano? Tampa actually has done a nice job building a young nucleus of talent. The main problem is of course the QB. Josh Freeman decided to be a jackass.