Actually, they are.

A young girl is father less because her adult dad couldn't be bothered to shut his phone off. Or just get up and move.

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But your point is asinine. Clearly the guy's actions played a part in his death, but the way you're framing your argument makes it appear as though he should have at least thought of the possibility of the confrontation becoming fatal.

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What is your opinion of the murderer Seacrest?

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Again, I don't know the story in full. Do we know the victim didn't do something weird or aggressive once the shit started about the texting? Unless the guy was batshit do ex cops just get up and start blasting?

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It wasn't for texting. It escalated from an issue with texting. To say he was shot for texting would be wrong.

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What if there were reports of break ins in the area prior to the shooting?

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He was profiled as a criminal texter?

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Death.

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He left that thought for his daughter to contemplate.

That was point.

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Murderers or killers?

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Thanks. That helps.

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It's a real straightforward question.

And i wasn't aware that the old man was found to be a murderer yet.

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Just answer the question. You've outlined that you think the guy who got killed took missteps. Do you think the guy who shot him did anything wrong? If so, what?

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If that's the position you are going to take Seacrest (ie. actions have consequnces) then she would have to think the same thing if he got hit by a bus on his way to the movie theater.

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Really leash?
What they both did was a mistake. A much greater mistake by the ex-cop who did the shooting. And as i mentioned about 5 pages or so ago, I seeing him walking on this unfortunately.

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Thank you.

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You really aren't trying to argue that our actions don't have consequences? Or are you?

And if the guy walks behind the bus, as it backs up, who is responsible then?

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[quote="Seacrest]
Sad to say that his daughter will one day realize that her father should have chosen a different way.[/quote]

What? Are you a complete nutjob? So, if someone gets mad at someone for telling them to turn off the cell phone, they deserve to get shot? Can I expect you to come after me, because I called you a nutjob? Is that the world you live in? Crazy@#$@$%@

LOL, what? Not even close to the same thing. He didn't accidently walk in front of a bullet.

I'm just pointing out how simplistic the point you are trying to make is. If the guy chilled out rather than antagonize the old man he'd still be alive and his daughter wouldn't have to worry about what a colossal fuck up her dad is, at least not yet. What's the point in bringing up what her dad could have done in a situation that already happened? Because it's painfully obvious he could have done a million different things that day if he wanted to avoid being killed.

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Nothing in the article indicated there was a big altercation.

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Boy, for that great Chicago Catholic School Education, you sure are being dumb!

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I don't know if you think you're gonna break the case from your couch when you "read more" but what I do know is that saying "I need to read more" does not apply in this scenario, period.

Again, there isn't anything plausible that you're gonna read that's gonna mitigate some asshole shooting someone else for texting.

And I don't give a shit what some hypothetical ex cops' proclivities may or may not be as they have no bearing on this one individual who SHOT A GUY FOR TEXTING.

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He didn't shoot the guy for texting, he shot the guy cause he made him 'a scared.

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This isn't true though.

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i think he shot the guy because he had a very simple solution to his rage issues at his fingertips. the guy should've moved to colorado in 2012, maybe he could've been a hero.

Wouldn't have mattered. IIRC that guy had on a lot of armor.

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Whatever. I will read more as this has me interested. And as far as Seacrests point (not that he deserved to die) if he wasn't like so many assholes in society these days could have said " I am sorry you are right I am turning off my phone". He was at a war movie and probably was the Eddie Murphy description of a Rocky movie fan. Fuck you old boy here comes some popcorn.

So girl has no dad old dude goes to jail and big tough dickhead is dead. I am sure he would have played it differently.

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Man, fuck whatever made this old guy feel the need to pack heat in a goddamn movie theater in the middle of the afternoon. Seriously.

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yeah but if you get hit with bullets, no matter what you're getting thrown to the ground because of the impact. by then he could've been subdued!