He thought he could get away with telling the old man to fuck off when he was doing something wrong. I call that bullying.

He shouldn't have been texting at all. In fact, there is a giant screen prior to the previews that scolds the viewer to put away their phones. The guy thought it didn't apply to him. And that's where the breakdown in society occurred.

I agree that within the confines of the same society for which the victim had little respect killing the guy is so far over the top as to be insane. But I'm not ashamed to admit that part of me is cheering the shooting. It's the same emotion that made me cheer when Walt blew up KENWINS. Blowing up a guy's car because he's an obnoxious jerk-off is extreme too. But I'd guess most viewers thought it was justice. And yeah, I know it's a TV show, but the emotions are the same.

The guy allegedly hit him with an unknown object (probably just popcorn) after the older guy went to tell a manager. There may have been a threat of physical violence because he went to tell the manager. Because of the age difference there may be a size difference. These things matter when it comes to deciding if he truly had a reason to be afraid of bodily harm. Now if we later find out the guy who was killed is smaller than IMU and didn't have a weapon I'm going to think the older guy was full of shit and basically murdered a man because he was upset.

Shoot first, ask questions later


If the old man feared for his life, pulling the gun out probably would have been enough to deal with that. Didnt need to shoot.


But, this may be the dark side of concealed carry as well. Are we gonna have to assume every person is carrying?

I don't think anyone is arguing that the guy who got shot may have been an idiot. Idiots are everywhere. I see idiots at gas stations, at restaurants, at movies, and at work. I don't shoot them. The point itself may be correct, but it's too "small" in the whole picture of what happened here to bear any relevance. You don't shoot people because they are idiots.

Well said.

I just dont get it. Why is this guy in the movie theater getting worse treatment than most murder victims? I guess it's because he was doing something we can all relate to as being annoying.


But Id guess 80% of people murdered did something annoying to the murderer.

Not over yet.

The guy who was texting DURING THE PREVIEWS.


And sorry, Im not sure it can be called bullying. The texting guy didnt seek out the old man.

Well said.

I just dont get it. Why is this guy in the movie theater getting worse treatment than most murder victims? I guess it's because he was doing something we can all relate to as being annoying.


But Id guess 80% of people murdered did something annoying to the murderer.

Given the choice, do you think in hindsight that the dad would now choose a different response?

Given the choice, do you think in hindsight that the dad would now choose a different response?

Seacrest, he was not shot in front of his daughter.

I think he would not go to the theater.

I think he would turn off his phone.

Or get up and move.

Like I said, his daughter will be left to one day contemplate why his cell phone was more important than his life.

The dad controlled one of the ultimate what ifs in this equation.

For whatever reason he chose to relinquish that control.