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Kirkwood

Post subject: Re: 1/20: I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:14 pm

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

It's such a simple-minded idea of being a fan. "If you don't like it, don't go."

The reason you are a fan is because you care about the team, win or lose. Losing? Just give up then, don't have a negative or conflicting view of whatever management is doing. I've been through multiple "plans". Some very similar to this ground-breaking plan. Theo is the new Andy MacPhail. Excuse me for having some skepticism.

Dallas Green had a great plan too. But, that was a different time and the CBA was different and Reagan was president and computers weren't even used back then and people used their eyes, can you imagine? THEIR EYES :lol:

to look at players and make judgments and Kathleen Turner was still hot back then and and and and...

I hope to hell this works but that doesn't mean I have to like the process or leave.

Right. And you wouldn't be insane or an idiot or "baseball retarded" to want them to sign Jhonny Peralta and Ubauldo Jimenez for three years each. It just might get you to 83-85 wins and then who knows? And when Bryant and Baez come up and are Longoria and Cano, I'm sure you can find somewhere for Peralta to play and you don't really have a problem at all. And those are just names I'm throwing out there. But it isn't really too much to ask a "big market heritage franchise" to field a big league team.

You would be "baseball retarded" with Jimenez. He sucks.

How about this? I'll bet you $100 right now he has a better 2014 season than Tanaka.

Damn, intriguing wager. Can we wait until we know which teams they are on?

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Post subject: Re: 1/20: I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:14 pm

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leashyourkids wrote:

Not everyone has a job where they pretend to give a shit about sports for five hours a day. It's a luxury, not a requirement of a fan. Most fans have truly compartmentalized sports in a healthy way, and it is the organization's job to reel them in and make them interested.

And Lord help them if they call into a sports talk show unawares.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Post subject: Re: 1/20: I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:15 pm

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What fan thinks Clark the Mascot is having an impact on the on-field product?

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Rod

Post subject: Re: 1/20: I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:15 pm

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Kirkwood wrote:

Damn, intriguing wager. Can we wait until we know which teams they are on?

Sure, we also have to establish the criteria for determining "better".

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Post subject: Re: 1/20: I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:16 pm

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

What fan thinks Clark the Mascot is having an impact on the on-field product?

He has exactly the same impact on the on-field product as "Go, Cubs, Go" or the Greek priest or any stupid shit the team did B.E. (Before Epstein).

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Post subject: Re: 1/20: I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:17 pm

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

What fan thinks Clark the Mascot is having an impact on the on-field product?

He has exactly the same impact on the on-field product as "Go, Cubs, Go" or the Greek priest or any stupid shit the team did B.E. (Before Epstein).

But who's even talking about that?

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Post subject: Re: 1/20: I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:19 pm

Love the out of nowhere Phil Simms is a racist call that was cutoff.

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Kirkwood

Post subject: Re: 1/20: I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:21 pm

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Damn, intriguing wager. Can we wait until we know which teams they are on?

Sure, we also have to establish the criteria for determining "better".

Have something like 3 categories: Wins, ERA and a sabermetric stat?

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Rod

Post subject: Re: 1/20: I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:23 pm

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

What fan thinks Clark the Mascot is having an impact on the on-field product?

He has exactly the same impact on the on-field product as "Go, Cubs, Go" or the Greek priest or any stupid shit the team did B.E. (Before Epstein).

But who's even talking about that?

B&B have spent hours upon hours suggesting that there was a Cub culture that had prevented winning, and somehow Epstein along with Julian Green and whatever other Really Smart Guys or Guys With Flavor were going to put an end to that culture. They "got it". And that culture included things exactly like Clark the Cub. At least it did when it was being created by guys bernstein didn't respect.

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jimmypasta

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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:24 pm

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turned these two assholes on today,they berated a caller about his complaint concerning Boston favoritism,shut the radio off. In less than 60 seconds,I had enough of their incessant bullshit.

WSCR,Tear down this wall!

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Rod

Post subject: Re: 1/20: I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:25 pm

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Kirkwood wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Damn, intriguing wager. Can we wait until we know which teams they are on?

Sure, we also have to establish the criteria for determining "better".

Have something like 3 categories: Wins, ERA and a sabermetric stat?

That would be okay, but I would suggest K/9, ERA+, and WAR. Best 2 out of 3 wins. Or maybe just WAR.

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jimmypasta

Post subject: Re: 1/20: I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:27 pm

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Regarding "Clark,The Cub". When the story broke,my first thought was: "That's nice,something for the kids." It still is my primary thought. I do not rip the Cubs on every move!

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Kirkwood

Post subject: Re: 1/20: I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:29 pm

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Damn, intriguing wager. Can we wait until we know which teams they are on?

Sure, we also have to establish the criteria for determining "better".

Have something like 3 categories: Wins, ERA and a sabermetric stat?

That would be okay, but I would suggest K/9, ERA+, and WAR. Best 2 out of 3 wins. Or maybe just WAR.

I like the 2 out of 3. Just want to make sure which skipper and pitching coach would be managing my investment.

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Curious Hair

Post subject: Re: 1/20: I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:30 pm

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"I don't want my commissioner to be an idiot! Let some fan pay the money to be out there! He should be someplace warm!"

hahahaha Dan is literally, LITERALLY sheltering Roger Goodell!

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Rod

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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:30 pm

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jimmypasta wrote:

Regarding "Clark,The Cub". When the story broke,my first thought was: "That's nice,something for the kids." It still is my primary thought. I do not rip the Cubs on every move!

There's no problem with Clark himself. They should have just had him start appearing at hospitals. Nobody would have said shit.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Post subject: Re: 1/20: I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:31 pm

I don't like that Goodell extra-point plan. I think Belichick's was better.

Goodell's thing is just the existing rule and just giving you the extra-point as a gimmie.

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Rod

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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:32 pm

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Curious Hair wrote:

"I don't want my commissioner to be an idiot! Let some fan pay the money to be out there! He should be someplace warm!"

hahahaha Dan is literally, LITERALLY sheltering Roger Goodell!

Remember when the Score was "fans talking to fans"? Now it's proxies for billionaires talking down to fans. Bring back Murph!

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Curious Hair wrote:

"I don't want my commissioner to be an idiot! Let some fan pay the money to be out there! He should be someplace warm!"

hahahaha Dan is literally, LITERALLY sheltering Roger Goodell!

Remember when the Score was "fans talking to fans"? Now it's proxies for billionaires talking down to fans. Bring back Murph!

"Here! Here!"- And team him up with Bernstein until one of them cracks! :lol:

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Roger Goodell willfully engaging in a publicity stunt to justify putting a Super Bowl in Jersey is WRONG and UNFAIR.

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leashyourkids

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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:34 pm

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Damn, intriguing wager. Can we wait until we know which teams they are on?

Sure, we also have to establish the criteria for determining "better".

Have something like 3 categories: Wins, ERA and a sabermetric stat?

That would be okay, but I would suggest K/9, ERA+, and WAR. Best 2 out of 3 wins. Or maybe just WAR.

Wait, wait, wait... if JORR's holding a bet, there has to be a category for wins. STAND ON IT!

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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:36 pm

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Curious Hair wrote:

"I don't want my commissioner to be an idiot! Let some fan pay the money to be out there! He should be someplace warm!"

hahahaha Dan is literally, LITERALLY sheltering Roger Goodell!

At least at the Super Bowl, the idiots sitting in the shitty seats actually are the hedge fund managers and doctors.

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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:37 pm

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People didn't want to pay major-league prices for a minor-league experience on the south side last year, and all four of the show's principals screamed their heads off at how awful the fans were. Of course, to call the White Sox a minor-league experience would be a compliment, because teams in the minor leagues tend not to shit all over their paying customers.

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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:37 pm

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leashyourkids wrote:

Wait, wait, wait... if JORR's holding a bet, there has to be a category for wins. STAND ON IT!

I don't mind that as a category, but it should be winning percentage. And the sample for a single season is small. But I would be willing to go best 2 out of 3 on ERA+, K/BB ratio, WAR and if a guy has a losing record he automatically loses. There should also be an innings minimum.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

I don't like that Goodell extra-point plan. I think Belichick's was better.

Goodell's thing is just the existing rule and just giving you the extra-point as a gimmie.

i say you move the goalposts closer together for XP only (they can engineer a moveable goal post system)... as for how close, i'm not sure. I'd want them close enough that kickers are only making 75% of the extra points... would lead to missed extra points and more 2 pt conversion plays to make up the missed XP

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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:59 pm

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How much did Spada pay Ditka to do that commercial for him?

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Extra points should be from the 15-20, two pts still from the 2 yard line.

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Not over yet.

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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:02 pm

conns7901 wrote:

How much did Spada pay Ditka to do that commercial for him?

I don't know but it's awful. Ditka sounds drunk and every time he tries to spit out "your....EmPLOYer..." it makes me cringe.

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Post subject: Re: 1/20: I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:04 pm

billypootons wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

I don't like that Goodell extra-point plan. I think Belichick's was better.

Goodell's thing is just the existing rule and just giving you the extra-point as a gimmie.

Maybe it wasn't Belichick's plan but I like the idea of making it a 40-yard extra-point or doing the 2-point. I feel that's pretty close to making it a decision.

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Tanaka is 25 but his arm is 30. He's a horrible long term investment.

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Rod

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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:23 pm

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

conns7901 wrote:

How much did Spada pay Ditka to do that commercial for him?

I don't know but it's awful. Ditka sounds drunk and every time he tries to spit out "your....EmPLOYer..." it makes me cringe.

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