Well said, agreed.

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I think the Cubs buy more of them out which undermines their current position.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

That's why I hate the fucking names.

I still like my plan of the city re-purposing the streets, then closing them and making each one of those buildings a bar.

Ironically, that would dilute the bar business there with the 2 biggest roof owners taking a hit because they own the only bars over there. Muprhys on the Bleacher sides and Sportscorner on the E side are the only 2 bars over there 9 (I dont count the DB who changes the name of his place every year because he cant get along with anyone who manages his bar)

So, of course they dont like anything else popping up over there,

Murphys is a dump. But its the only place when you walk out of the bleachers. They do have a really good burger though!

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Couldnt disagree more.

See: Fenway Park

The Red Sox own all the adjacent property around the park and it is like a giant mall party type thing.

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Don't people complain about Fenway now though? I've never been to it so I wouldn't know. They didn't even do major changes to some of the defining features such as the Green Monster.

Also, it probably helps that the Red Sox now win the World Series every few years.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Wrigleyville isn't?

Yes they did. There weren't always seats on top of that wall.

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Well not owned by the Cubs adding the almighty revenue.

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Elections have consequences.

Fenway sucks. It's really cool the first time to see the history and pageantry but it is an awful place to watch a baseball game. The seats are cramped and face the wrong way and the aisles and walkways are too small. It's a fun place to visit but I wouldn't want it to be my home ballpark.

It seems like the same park to me on TV. Ive never been.

Sounds a lot like Wrigley

Wrigley is far better. It's a pain the ass to get to and as long as you're not in an obstructed seat or have to take a piss it's a great place to watch a game. There is nothing redeeming about Fenway. Nothing.

Also, Chicago > Boston in general.

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We have entire threads devoted to people bitching about various ways neighbors use their own private property in a way our board members do not like. However, in a neighbor dispute, so many seem to take the side of the offender.

Remember this at the next public meeting you attend with the rest of the rabble to object to someone's proposal for development or use of their property.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Hoo boy. Break time.

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Boycott and I will set up white sox fan events on the roof.

All you fans of signage will be thrilled when you see what I will be hanging over the rails for the viewing pleasure of you backwards baseball hat wearing, tribal tat sporting, skoal dipping douchebags.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

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dude is pretty jacked...heavily buried fact of that day is that he started at Wrigley

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Cubs fans are quick to point out out that 2005 was a long time ago, yet that picture is even a few years older.

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Agreed, both old and irrelevant

I think they should make a Samuel Adams bar out of Paul Revere's house in Boston.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

great article by Rosey:


Dear Cubs Fanboy Owner (and you know who you are, Tom Ricketts),

The option to move the team out of Wrigley Field remains open.

You should’ve done this on Day One. You should’ve thanked everyone for coming, explained how thrilled you and daddy’s money are to own the team, and then dropped the hammer --- telling the city and the rooftops and everyone else with clout that you need concessions or you’ll be needing Bekins.


But you didn’t, and then you did something worse. You professed your love for Wrigley and your intention of staying there forever, which is roughly how long it’ll take to get something renovated there.

You’ve bumped along during your fanboy ownership in trying to make progress on the field and in the ballpark and neighborhood. Cut it out. Start acting and sounding like a businessman, not a fanboy owner and especially not like Michael McCaskey.

Yeah, you love Wrigley. A lot of people do. So what? Bill Wirtz loved the Stadium maybe more than everyone else loved that thunderdome, but he wrecked it quicker than his father said no to Bobby Hull and joined with Chairman Reinsdorf to build the United Center.

Sentiment makes you a fanboy owner. Ineptitude in getting the renovations started makes you a fanboy owner. You need to be a businessman owner. Cubs fans need you to be a business owner. Businessmen find leverage and use it. You forfeited it immediately and ever since. But the opportunity to change that by changing venues and cities and even counties is still sitting there for you.

Don’t look at it like you’re playing the bad guy. Look at it like you’re playing the smart guy.

Your franchise and your business partners who own rooftops had a dustup at a negotiating session Wednesday. The rooftops reportedly objected to some signs that blocked more views than originally believed. Things got loud, and then things ended.

You haven’t attacked the Wrigley renovations because you’re afraid of litigation by the rooftop owners. It’s a legitimate concern. You’ve been too lame or cheap to buy off the rooftops. You’ve been too lame to play the leverage game.

But here’s the upside of doing nothing with the City Council’s approval of renovations: Playing the move card remains an option.

Not only haven’t you stuck a shovel in the ground, but you probably haven’t even put a down payment on any tools or materials. You’ve accomplished almost none of the ambitious $500 million plan to renovate Wrigley and create the rest of Rickettsville.

Which means Splitsville remains an option. See how the mayor likes the hole where his ridiculous amusement tax used to be. See how the rooftops like the view of baseball’s most famous ruin, although the quality of play there would improve.

Meet with mayors in the area. Order several environmental surveys. Draw up plans for the new Wrigley the way you already did with the existing stadium.

And be prepared to act on it. And know that fans will follow. I mean, you’re already losing fans because your product stinks. It’s part of the plan, I know, but this stinks even for a franchise built to stink. Your attendance will drop again this season. The suckers aren’t coming to Wrigley just because it’s Wrigley the way you told dad. That’s the big joke.

That’s also a great springboard. Thank Mayor Emanuel for his time, then tell him you’ve decided to move the team because this ongoing garbage isn’t worth the headache and you’ve found a suburban mayor and city partner who can get things done.

If this is part of your long-term plan and you needed the obstinate rooftops and wonky City Hall help to set up your exit strategy, then it has been well-played. Congratulations. But if not, then wake up to what remains a batting practice fastball.

If you build it, they will come. Guaranteed. What’s more, it’s a great business move to dump out of Wrigley as soon as possible and somehow fast-forward construction because it would provide a distraction while Theo Epstein’s on-field product makes people sick. By the way, when does your marketing department schedule Air Sickness Bag Day?

Your team will stink for more years than Epstein or you imagined. You need a diversion. You need a smart move. Unlike your team, you need to jump out in front and act like you belong there.

You're welcome.

Signed, Stevie Sunshine, a pleaser, not a teaser

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

It's going to be great watching Cubs fans bitch about the renovations once they are completed.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

The renovations arent for the benefit of fans. Theyre for the benefit of Ricketts.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

It's gonna be great watching the Sox copy the Wrigley renovations at the Cell.

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I enjoyed that...basically said what walkrman5 said earlier (or vice versa). Best line: "you’re already losing fans because your product stinks. It’s part of the plan, I know, but this stinks even for a franchise built to stink."

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But they will benefit the fans

How? By turning it into a shittier version of a million other ballparks?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don