Agreed. You can do the draft pick dance and who got what and did what with it but in the end the Broncos ditching Cutler is the reason why they are here

The decision to not go back to Bledsoe was the true great move by the Patriots. Brady was really only average that season and many organizations would not have put the future on a 6th round pick. Bledsoe also had just signed a massive contract.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I like you enough to not point out I already said that.


It actually goes back to that motherfucking Boston College upset of ND in 93.. Without that ND goes undefeated, Mirer goes to the Pats and Tom Brady is pumping gas somewhere.

Also, and it pains me to say this, but ditching Tebow took guts too. He had taken them to the playoffs and won a game. They cut him loose and signed a guy who may not have been able to play again or play well. Now, some of us knew Tebow sucked but if Manning had been bad too then everyone would say "Tebow Jesus Saves all He does is win".

To act like now that it was "luck" that they got Manning isn't really fair. There were teams like the Bears that didn't seem to want anything to do with Manning.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

It really goes back to when Da Bears destroyed the Pats in the Super Bowl. The Pats never recovered and got to be bad enough that the got to draft Bledsoe #1

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It's really an exercise in futility to argue Brick's point here. He's 100% correct.

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Here could be another one to think about, listening on the Scott Van Pelt show, what if Manning didn't go to the Broncos or stayed with the Colts. I will throw this out, just looking if Luck came out after the first year he could, probably goes to the Panthers, then does Cam Newton go to the Broncos.

Reading the New York Post, what if Manning came out after junior year, he would have been a Jet, and have that Manning with Parcells would have been a dangerous combo.

Seems like the NFL you see this a lot, like when the Colts drafted Manning, what if they had taken Leaf, is Drew Brees with the Colts.

To keep it with the Bears, what if they had taken Moss instead of Enis in the draft.

A lot of things happen, but it's always the trickle down effect too.