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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:20 pm 
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The pity party for Johnny Football is getting a little old.

He's going to be set for life in a few months. He also got paid a lot in college anyways(under the table).



Nope. He's already earned millions. It just went into someone else's bank account.
How will Texas A&M survive without him next year? You think they'll go bankrupt?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
The pity party for Johnny Football is getting a little old.

He's going to be set for life in a few months. He also got paid a lot in college anyways(under the table).



Nope. He's already earned millions. It just went into someone else's bank account.
How will Texas A&M survive without him next year? You think they'll go bankrupt?



The same way Alabama would survive without Saban. But you aren't advocating for limitations on his market value.

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The same way Alabama would survive without Saban. But you aren't advocating for limitations on his market value.
I wouldn't have a problem with that either, though the value of a coach is obviously higher than any college player.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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The same way Alabama would survive without Saban. But you aren't advocating for limitations on his market value.
I wouldn't have a problem with that either, though the value of a coach is obviously higher than any college player.


I don't believe that's obvious at all.

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The value of any great consistently winning coach is and always will be greater than
the value of any great consistently winning college player...no exception.


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You don't need a good defense if you have a great offense! The Green Bay Packers won a championship without much of a defense!


The year the Packers won the Super Bowl, they were 2nd in the NFL in defensive DVOA (1st against the pass).


Dave...that's impossible because Dan said so! :lol:


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The value of any great consistently winning coach is and always will be greater than
the value of any great consistently winning college player...no exception.


OK, so we can cap any player salary below what the coach makes.

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LeggoMYego wrote:
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You don't need a good defense if you have a great offense! The Green Bay Packers won a championship without much of a defense!


The year the Packers won the Super Bowl, they were 2nd in the NFL in defensive DVOA (1st against the pass).


Dave...that's impossible because Dan said so! :lol:

it's going on WYC today if possible.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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The same way Alabama would survive without Saban. But you aren't advocating for limitations on his market value.
I wouldn't have a problem with that either, though the value of a coach is obviously higher than any college player.


I don't believe that's obvious at all.
You'd think an Illini fan would understand how valuable good coaching can be.

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LeggoMYego wrote:
The value of any great consistently winning coach is and always will be greater than
the value of any great consistently winning college player...no exception.


How are you determining that "fact"?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
LeggoMYego wrote:
The value of any great consistently winning coach is and always will be greater than
the value of any great consistently winning college player...no exception.


How are you determining that "fact"?


A college player has a term limit...the consistency of winning college coach would include recruiting (obvious replacement of said "great player") and of course supreme STRATEEGERY! :D


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LeggoMYego wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
LeggoMYego wrote:
The value of any great consistently winning coach is and always will be greater than
the value of any great consistently winning college player...no exception.


How are you determining that "fact"?


A college player has a term limit...the consistency of winning college coach would include recruiting (obvious replacement of said "great player") and of course supreme STRATEEGERY! :D


Okay, I would agree with you in the case of the few coaches who spend an extended period in one place.

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Okay, I would agree with you in the case of the few coaches who spend an extended period in one place.
Most good coaches end up staying longer than 5 years at the BCS schools.

Also, at least for now, the NFL isn't an option for a majority of college football players. It is for the college coaches which obviously raises the value. Even if they started paying college football players, they wouldn't be competing with the NFL except in the rare case where a senior wants to come back with big money available at the NFL level.

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You don't need a good defense if you have a great offense! The Green Bay Packers won a championship without much of a defense!


The year the Packers won the Super Bowl, they were 2nd in the NFL in defensive DVOA (1st against the pass).


Dave...that's impossible because Dan said so! :lol:


Then 20 minutes later, their guest and football "expert" Matt Miller pick Seattle to win because of their defense.

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maybe new york media doesn't have a black athlete fetish like lil danny b does. Besides, Martellus Bennett's not that great on the radio. Peanut Tillman's a better radio interview.


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I'm guessing the Ravens and Seahawks bird logos are more familiar/attractive to Eli the Ape than the 49ers or Broncos logos.


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weeeeeeeellllll....
turns out 'ol B&B may have flipped a little too soon on this Incognito stuff.

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somebody want to be Scott from wherever and find some threads where they wholeheartedly believed Martin?

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somebody get Dan already on the Packers thing? I'm calling in.

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weeeeeeeellllll....
turns out 'ol B&B may have flipped a little too soon on this Incognito stuff.


Oh brother, what's their position now?


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welp, didn't get thru.

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Dave In Champaign wrote:
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You don't need a good defense if you have a great offense! The Green Bay Packers won a championship without much of a defense!


The year the Packers won the Super Bowl, they were 2nd in the NFL in defensive DVOA (1st against the pass).

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes! The Packers offense has continued to be excellent. Why aren't they going for the 3-peat? Oh yea....dammit.


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the old WYC song puts me in a happy place. :lol:

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What was that spot for, the one with "playing with your WEEEEE?" and "Beep beep beep beep beep beep beep"?

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weeeeeeeellllll....
turns out 'ol B&B may have flipped a little too soon on this Incognito stuff.


Oh brother, what's their position now?


Not gonna pretend that I knew cause obviously I didn't...though when they were making ABSOLUTES about the whole situation that Incognito was the bad guy. I'm sure the guy is an ass but to think Martin's actions did not contribute or to not eve be considered was fuckin' ridiculous.

Dan to backpedal like a 2bit whore yesterday was honestly sad and pathetic...[b][b]"Martin was acting that way to FIT IN to the group...he had to do that to survive"[/b][/b] WTF is that? When do people take responsibility for their own actions and decisions?


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