Not so Beardown.

What I'm saying is that they look with disdain towards many, and not at all toward others.

Your imagining things. Again.

Picture Seacrest spending his high school summers across the street from Ignatius watching terrified wealthy white kids walking out of summer school trying to pretend the world across the street didn't exist.

You are either purposely lying or oblivious. Ignatius may have a portion of students from wealthy families but its core is educating the high achieving children of people across the socio economic spectrum. In my experience, I would stereotype the average Ignatius student as a kid from Beverly with parents who both work one of whom has a government job. Ignatius does not deny admission due to need and it shows in its population. Even further, you are most likely a decade older than me. Ignatius almost closed its doors during your era. In my time, it was severely run down physically. It was and is hardly Latin, Parker or even Loyola for that matter in terms of endowment.

You are extrapolating the success you see from its graduates to the beginning point of those students.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

The truth is that Ignatius is a place that imbues service to others into its students. Each lawyer or doctor it produces can be matched by a social worker or teacher. As I've written before, the school had and has incredibly popular public service programs ranging from days to the entire year. So as Seacrest "spent his summer" in the Abla Homes, he was only acting as an aide to the Ignatius student who had spent the entire year helping.

If Fenwick had only had such programs in Austin he wouldn't have had to travel so far to impact his community.

At Gordon we just got into fights with boys from the Uhlich Home.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

Who won?

Each lawyer or doctor it produces can be matched by a social worker or teacher.

when i was a wee lad, I thought most blacks were Catholic from seeing the all the high school teams on TV.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

Have you ever seen "Hoop Dreams" Hatchet?

Actually I haven't. I try not to make myself depressed intentionally.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

I'm not oblivious to the fact that Ignatius, like many other CCL schools, take in students from lower socio economic surroundings, as well as students of color, to enhance their athletic programs. .

Your high school produced lawyers, doctors, social workers, and teachers? Wow. I thought you had to go to college and beyond to be those. I thought my high school had a lot of AP classes. It certainly didn't have enough to get a medical degree though.

I'm not oblivious to the fact that Ignatius, like many other CCL schools, take in students from lower socio economic surroundings, as well as students of color, to enhance their athletic programs. Fenwick has, and continues to do the same thing unfortunately. All under the guise of "helping" the less fortunate while using the extracurricular and sporting success of their students to enhance their enrollment and school stature.

And I have first hand knowledge of the upgrades to the facilities at Ignatius a generation ago. I also know that they were not as bad off as you make it sound.

And if the success of our graduates is measured using names like Quinn, Hynes, Cullerton and Madigan, then I think success needs a new definition.

Notable alumni[edit]

Charles Bidwill, owner of the Chicago Cardinals (1933–47); inducted in 1967 into the Pro Football Hall of Fame[10]
Lawrence Biondi, S.J., President of Saint Louis University
Andre Braugher (1980), Emmy Award–winning actor (Glory, Frequency, Homicide: Life on the Street, Men of a Certain Age)
Thomas J. Campbell (1969), Dean of Chapman University School of Law and former five-term U.S. Representative representing California's 12th and 15th congressional districts (1989–1993, 1995–2001)
Patrick Chovanec (1988), business professor at Tsinghua University, economics and political commentator
William M. Daley, former White House Chief of Staff under Barack Obama and former U.S. Secretary of Commerce (1997–2000)[11][12]
Mark Dalesandro (1986), former Major League Baseball catcher and third baseman who played for the California Angels (1994–1995), Toronto Blue Jays (1998–1999), and Chicago White Sox (2001)
Mathias W. Delort (1978), Illinois Appellate Court Justice
Richard Driehaus (1960), businessman and philanthropist; namesake of the Driehaus Prize given in architecture[13]
Tony D'Souza (1992), novelist, Guggenheim, O. Henry Award, Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters
Chip E. (1984), filmmaker and music producer
Sonari Glinton (1992) Reporter NPR[14]
Jack Higgins (1972), editorial cartoonist at the Chicago Sun-Times
John Hinsdale (1981), open source software advocate
Mellody Hobson (1987), President of Ariel Capital Management, LLC; also TV Correspondent in the field of finance[15]
Dan Hynes (1986), Comptroller for the State of Illinois and announced a run for the State of Illinois Governor's seat in 2009
Dan Lipinski (1984), U.S. Representative representing Illinois's 3rd congressional district (2005–present)[16]
Michael Madigan (1960), current Speaker of the Illinois House of Representatives[12][17]
John Mulaney (2000), standup comedian and writer on Saturday Night Live.
Bob Newhart (1947), actor/comedian (Newhart, The Bob Newhart Show)[18]
Vyto Ruginis (1974), actor
Casey Siemaszko (1979), actor
Nina Siemaszko (1988), actress
Todd Stroger (1981), former Cook County Board President[19]
Michael Wilbon (1976), sportswriter and television personality (Pardon the Interruption)

I rarely troll.

Your high school produced lawyers, doctors, social workers, and teachers? Wow. I thought you had to go to college and beyond to be those. I thought my high school had a lot of AP classes. It certainly didn't have enough to get a medical degree though.

Now you are just trolling.

Sports are an afterthought at the school. There is not a single sport that has sustained success that I can think of. Nanna Egwu was the last major sport athlete to get a scholarship and he is a top student of upper middle class parents. There might be one major sport athlete every decade who goes on to play college ball.

You really cannot be making this argument. It's not one that can be made. You are embarrassing yourself.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

Marist produces 19 year old drug kingpins

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

One of my classmates was dead 14 m months after graduation.

Shot dead in a drug deal turned robbery.

It's not an argument. It's a statement of fact that applies at Ignatius and elsewhere. .

Yeah, weve had a few deaths.


I saw Cappas post on a friend's facebook yesterday and was reminded of him. His book "Tall Money" should be called "Crime Pays", he's doing very well.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

How long has he been out?

Few years. Bought the legendary Willie's Weenie Wagon on 159th and Pulaski. Now it's Johnny's and he's slowly transitioning it into a pizza place.

He did 15 years. That must have sucked. But still, 15 years in jail and the rest of his life he's all set.
Im sure he had money from before.

Amusingly, his comment was on a story about a theft and he was suggesting STREET JUSTICE would be in order.

I'm puzzled why they would make an exception to allow in bad athletes (or at the very least athletes who have no impact on success) in sports nobody cares about.

Your arguments are become unsound and strangely off point.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

I think he does motivational speaking too. Did he fuck Giselle Fernandez or not?

Oh, I think that's a given


That would have been great reporting if she wasnt fucking him

Oh, I think that's a given

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

the Catholic elite is a club that exists to benefit its members. they don't care about helping other people. your story is all messed up Seacrest.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.