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Listening to Roz & Meat talking about this situation. Roz is right...Ricketts is a pussy who doesn't have the balls to play hardball to get this thing done. Get to hell out of Wrigley Field & move to the suburbs!

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He is a pussy for being a nice guy? I don't buy it. I want the Cubs to stay in Wrigley.

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He is a pussy for being a nice guy? I don't buy it. I want the Cubs to stay in Wrigley.



He isn't a nice guy. He's just smart enough to understand what he has in Wrigley Field and what a dumb ass idea moving to Schaumburg is. And it would never be taken seriously by anyone except meatball Cub fans who call in to radio shows and post on message boards.

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He is a pussy for being a nice guy? I don't buy it. I want the Cubs to stay in Wrigley.



He isn't a nice guy. He's just smart enough to understand what he has in Wrigley Field and what a dumb ass idea moving to Schaumburg is. And it would never be taken seriously by anyone except meatball Cub fans who call in to radio shows and post on message boards.


Ricketts has fucked this thing up from the beginning. He had big time leverage that he threw away because he isn't a shrewd businessman. Little Tommy should have asked his Dad to handle this situation.

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He is a pussy for being a nice guy? I don't buy it. I want the Cubs to stay in Wrigley.



He isn't a nice guy. He's just smart enough to understand what he has in Wrigley Field and what a dumb ass idea moving to Schaumburg is. And it would never be taken seriously by anyone except meatball Cub fans who call in to radio shows and post on message boards.


Ricketts has fucked this thing up from the beginning. He had big time leverage that he threw away because he isn't a shrewd businessman. Little Tommy should have asked his Dad to handle this situation.



What leverage did he have? The idiotic idea of walking away from the biggest cash cow in the history of baseball? That would be really shrewd. I guess he could have made some empty threats. The problem with that is that others then have the opportunity to tell you to go fuck yourself. Then where are you?

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It is an incredible pain in the rear to get to Wrigley. And yet, I would see a lot less games if they moved somewhere else. I am with Jorr on this.

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It is an incredible pain in the rear to get to Wrigley. And yet, I would see a lot less games if they moved somewhere else. I am with Jorr on this.


I know a lot of people who will not go to games at Wrigley Field, including me, who would go if the Cubs stadium was more accessible. Big cities are dying a slow death & are losing population & businesses to the suburbs. If the White Sox would have built new Cominskey Field in the suburbs the place would be filled every night. Same would happen if the Cubs moved to the suburbs. Things change. Progress happens. Embrace it.

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Isnt the opposite happening? People moving back to the cities from the suburbs... Thought I heard that but am too lazy to look it up.

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Scorehead wrote:
Big cities are dying a slow death & are losing population & businesses to the suburbs.

Wrong.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304830704577493032619987956

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Scorehead wrote:
Big cities are dying a slow death & are losing population & businesses to the suburbs.

Wrong.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304830704577493032619987956
That's a short term trend though. It's too early to tell if it will last long term.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-02-15/news/ct-met-2010-census-20110215_1_census-data-collar-counties-population

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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He is a pussy for being a nice guy? I don't buy it. I want the Cubs to stay in Wrigley.



He isn't a nice guy. He's just smart enough to understand what he has in Wrigley Field and what a dumb ass idea moving to Schaumburg is. And it would never be taken seriously by anyone except meatball Cub fans who call in to radio shows and post on message boards.


Ricketts has fucked this thing up from the beginning. He had big time leverage that he threw away because he isn't a shrewd businessman. Little Tommy should have asked his Dad to handle this situation.



What leverage did he have? The idiotic idea of walking away from the biggest cash cow in the history of baseball? That would be really shrewd. I guess he could have made some empty threats. The problem with that is that others then have the opportunity to tell you to go fuck yourself. Then where are you?

Count me among those who wish he would have threatened it

or at the very least not specifically state they were staying under all circumstances. That helped nothing.

It's a negotiation right? Extraneous info and promises no one asked for have no place.

And if they say fuck yourself, we'd be in the same boat as we are now.


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Douchebag wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Big cities are dying a slow death & are losing population & businesses to the suburbs.

Wrong.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304830704577493032619987956


Did you read the article that you posted? You cant just ignore the long term recent trend of negative growth in urban areas. As the article states..."In the short term, however, most of this is a legacy of the recession and housing bust, said Kenneth Johnson, senior demographer at the Carsey Institute at the University of New Hampshire. "I suspect the modest growth of the urban cores is a short-term phenomenon," Mr. Johnson said.

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Scorehead wrote:
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Big cities are dying a slow death & are losing population & businesses to the suburbs.

Wrong.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304830704577493032619987956


Did you read the article that you posted? You cant just ignore the long term recent trend of negative growth in urban areas. As the article states..."In the short term, however, most of this is a legacy of the recession and housing bust, said Kenneth Johnson, senior demographer at the Carsey Institute at the University of New Hampshire. "I suspect the modest growth of the urban cores is a short-term phenomenon," Mr. Johnson said.

Did you read the rest of the article? You picked out one quote that might support your argument, while ignoring a bunch of other items:

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According to Census data released Thursday, in 27 of the nation's 51 largest metropolitan areas, city centers grew faster than suburbs between July 2010 and July 2011. By contrast, from 2000 to 2010 only five metro areas saw their cores grow faster than the surrounding suburbs.


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Viewed as a whole, U.S. suburbs have grown faster than city centers in every decade since the 1920s, when rising automobile ownership inspired Americans to begin fleeing cramped city quarters for leafy suburbs, said William Frey, a demographer at the Brookings Institution. Urban population growth accelerated markedly at the end of the last decade, he added.


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Home builders are betting that there is a longer-term shift under way. Many builders that previously worked entirely on single-family homes in the suburbs have refocused to keep up with what they say is a change in demand. Three of the largest publicly traded U.S. home-building companies— Toll Brothers Inc., TOL -0.85% Lennar Corp. LEN -0.83% and Hovnanian Enterprises Inc. HOV -1.20% —have in recent years built mid-rise and high-rise condominium towers in urban areas such as New York City, Northern New Jersey, Philadelphia and Irvine, Calif., looking to capitalize on consumers' rising distaste for long commute times and interest in housing that is closer to cities' cultural and job centers.


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Few places have seen a more drastic shift than the nation's capital, which is in the midst of an apartment boom while suburb development has fallen below pre-recession levels. In 2011 building permits were issued for 4,285 units in Washington, more than one and a half times the total in any year during the real estate boom.From July 2010 to July 2011 Washington's population grew 2.4%, while its suburbs grew 1.5%.


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Stanley Sloter, president of Paradigm Development Co., has built thousands of rental apartments in Washington's suburbs but today is focused on developing in the city and nearby Arlington, Va. He says young, affluent renters are fed up with suburban traffic and are drawn to revitalizing downtowns. His company recently finished a 390-unit apartment building one mile north of the National Mall and later this year plans to start on another nearby.

"There's just a constant level of demand," he said of the city.

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Big cities are dying a slow death & are losing population & businesses to the suburbs.


Posted: Wed Feb 05, 1984 12:53 pm

Abandoning cities is not progress.

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This short term city growth is merely a reflection of the housing bust & recession.

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I think Ive figured out Scorehead

He makes a decision for himself. Then he goes around telling anyone who will listen that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, presumably to feel better about his decision.


He's not comfortable on an island. He needs others. Many people fit this description.


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If you root against anchor cities, you're a legit capital-letters Bad Person. It's like saying a solar system would be better without the sun. I mean, they're doing great things with LED lights these days, it's progress

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I think Ive figured out Scorehead

He makes a decision for himself. Then he goes around telling anyone who will listen that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, presumably to feel better about his decision.

EVERYONE is a mid 50's upper middle class white guy who would NEVER want to live in an urban center.

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Don't get me wrong: there's nothing wrong with suburbs. I grew up in the suburbs. I love the suburbs. But Arlington Heights is not a replacement for Chicago. I don't like the idea of existing wholly within a great big nowhere.

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I think Ive figured out Scorehead

He makes a decision for himself. Then he goes around telling anyone who will listen that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, presumably to feel better about his decision.


He's not comfortable on an island. He needs others. Many people fit this description.


He's the kind of guy who refers to city-dwellers as "taxeaters".

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He is a pussy for being a nice guy? I don't buy it. I want the Cubs to stay in Wrigley.



He isn't a nice guy.

I've not heard anybody say that he isn't a nice guy. I think the general consensus is that he is a very nice guy.

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I think Ive figured out Scorehead

He makes a decision for himself. Then he goes around telling anyone who will listen that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, presumably to feel better about his decision.


He's not comfortable on an island. He needs others. Many people fit this description.
He's kind of right though in this case.

It's been like an 80 or 90 year trend out of the cities. It's been a slow 4 or 5 year trend in the opposite direction especially in Chicago.
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Don't get me wrong: there's nothing wrong with suburbs. I grew up in the suburbs. I love the suburbs. But Arlington Heights is not a replacement for Chicago. I don't like the idea of existing wholly within a great big nowhere.
It wouldn't be a great big nowhere though. Bars, restaurants, attractions exist all over the place. They are more concentrated in big cities because there are more people. It's not like if people move to the suburbs they lose access to museums and fine dining.

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I think Ive figured out Scorehead

He makes a decision for himself. Then he goes around telling anyone who will listen that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, presumably to feel better about his decision.


He's not comfortable on an island. He needs others. Many people fit this description.
He's kind of right though in this case.

It's been like an 80 or 90 year trend out of the cities. It's been a slow 4 or 5 year trend in the opposite direction especially in Chicago.

Im sure he's right about half the time.


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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 1984 12:53 pm

Abandoning cities is not progress.
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He is a pussy for being a nice guy? I don't buy it. I want the Cubs to stay in Wrigley.



He isn't a nice guy.

I've not heard anybody say that he isn't a nice guy. I think the general consensus is that he is a very nice guy.


I doubt that he's particularly "nice". Although it's undoubtedly much easier to be nice when you never have to worry about paying your rent.

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Although it's undoubtedly much easier to be nice when you never have to worry about paying your rent.

Reinsdorf must be Santa Claus then.

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