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No, she got out tried the no police deal, when my daughters mom said, hold on we might have to call someone, she took off running got in the car and sped away

HUGE leap from what we are talking here.

Legal and documented immigration is fine, especially when the process allows in many entrants with needed skills and not just simple slave labor. And it wasn't just xenophobia that destroyed Japan.

We live in a world with different countries. Until that is no longer true, I will continue to think that a country has a right to choose who it lets into the country. I doubt you would even want a no borders worldwide policy.
The legality is not arbitrary any more than any other rule or regulation in any modern society is arbitrary.

Are you saying that countries don't have a right to control who can or can't enter the country and that anyone in the world should be free to go and live wherever they want?

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she was just trying to make a better life for her family i'm sure

The only difference between legal and illegal immigration is that some guy is deciding who gets in.

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The only difference between legal and illegal murder is that some guy is deciding which it is.

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You're not really blaming her bad driving on what you believe to be her immigration status?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I didn't know legal murder existed.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

If illegal immigrants are going to stay here, they should have to follow the same ridiculous set of laws and regulations as the rest of us.

Change it to whatever word you want for the killing of another human being.

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Which laws do you think they don't have to follow?

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

well she was unlicensed, isn't the point of having a license that you are qualified to operate a motor vehicle ?
do you think she went through driver's ed courses, passed the eye, written and road tests ???

Not quite, but keep trying.

Drivers licenses and insurance for one.

And what happnes when they're caught? Suspend their non existent license? Who cares? They dont even need one!

There are plenty of unlicensed driver born right here in the good ol' U.S. of A. We don't even know if she was illegal. We're just assuming that.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Yeah, this woman might have benefited from a class or two.

Right thru a fucking red light

Illegal Alien was a great Genesis song.

That's not true. They need a license and insurance as much as you do. If she gets caught and she's illegal, the consequences are going to be, at a minimum, as bad as they would be for you or me, and probably much more dire.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Yes. We are.

Because she could barely speak english, had no license and no insurance and fled the scene of a crime that would be at most a ticket for a legal person. I dont know too many citizens that fit that description. Do you?

Absolutely false. See Conns post on page 1.

I personally know a few guys who have gotten 4 duis. Like I said, they dont mind becuase suspending their driving privileges doesnt affect them.

I agree that it's a pretty fair assumption. And yeah, I know at least a few guys that would run from the scene of an accident for various reasons.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

If only there was a way to not have a strong suspicion that someone who is willing to get out of a car after an accident, say "no police", and then run away was here illegally.

Then again, there isn't anything bad about illegal immigration!

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First, I don't believe conns' post. Second, we can post all kinds of anecdotes. I know a guy who was caught for speeding and was deported. DUI laws have gotten increasing tougher and tougher. I don't believe anyone can have four DUI convictions without doing jail time right now 2014.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

The penalty for driving without insurance is you have to get SR-22 insurance. They dont get it, and then they keep driving til they're caught again.

By the time they get to jail time, a lot of people may have been hurt


I dont know why you would not believe Conns

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

the administrative penalties are where they get you (i.e. the ones the illegals don't care about)
jail time wise, it's not a whole lot

Exactly

But that has nothing to do with being illegal. In fact, most illegals I know want to be licensed and have insurance. They don't want to play Russian roulette with the life they've built in this country. And all kinds of citizens drive uninsured.




Because I know cops who have taken in Mexicans without licenses.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Depends on the state. My buddy's dad in TX is doing 7 years right now for his 4th DUI.

We need to make the process of getting here legally a whole lot easier. Should take less than a day. If you're not a felon in your previous country, you're in.

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