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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:25 am 
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The one with the problem in this thread is you, Nas.


Yes I have a problem with stereotypes and judging people based on their ethnicity. You have a problem comprehending.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:26 am 
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It's his primary reason. They've both repeated this. Are you having a comprehension problem?
The primary reason is that she clearly had some reason to avoid the police. Something in her life was clearly at odds with the law.



Even 100% law-abiding, never had a jay-walking ticket peeps from less-favored ethnic groups avoid the police at all costs. The police have never brought anything but trouble into their lives, so why invite them in?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:27 am 
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Absolutely false. So now you're telling me what my thought process was to prove your misguided attempt at a point?

I work with 50 people who barely speak a word of english. I dont assume they are legal or illegal. I dont know

The fact that she chose a hit and run over getting a citation for driving without license is by far the biggest factor in my assumption (which is almost certainly correct.)


I don't care how many people you work with or how many friends you have. I'm looking at your post. If she talks like you then you don't assume she is here illegally. You went on an immigration rant based on 2 words.

Nope.

You can keep repeating this obvious lie, but it doesnt make it true.

I assumed she was here illegally because it was worth leaving the scene of an accident to avoid a driving citation.

Ive posted quotes from last night. You keep choosing to ignore them.


You wouldn't have assumed that I was here illegally if I did the same.

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Even 100% law-abiding, never had a jay-walking tickets peeps from less-favored ethnic groups avoid the police at all costs. The police have never brought anything but trouble into their lives, so why invite them in?
100% law-abiding citizens aren't doing hit and runs especially when they've made their face well known.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:28 am 
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I don't care how many people you work with or how many friends you have. I'm looking at your post. If she talks like you then you don't assume she is here illegally. You went on an immigration rant based on 2 words.
Clearly there was something illegal she was involved in. What would you suspect for her? Murderer? Drug dealer? Bank Fraud?


Suspended or revoked license or a outstanding warrant.

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Nas wrote:
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I don't care how many people you work with or how many friends you have. I'm looking at your post. If she talks like you then you don't assume she is here illegally. You went on an immigration rant based on 2 words.
Clearly there was something illegal she was involved in. What would you suspect for her? Murderer? Drug dealer? Bank Fraud?


Suspended or revoked license or a outstanding warrant.
To me, that is worse than thinking someone may be an illegal immigrant.

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I'm not sure who you're arguing with here. I never accused RPB of using a racial stereotype. You do know she was Mexican though, don't you? Maybe I'm the one who is stereotyping, but I'd feel very comfortable betting my house against $1,000 that she was Mexican.
but would you bet $10,000 ?


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NearWessSideHussra wrote:
Even 100% law-abiding, never had a jay-walking tickets peeps from less-favored ethnic groups avoid the police at all costs. The police have never brought anything but trouble into their lives, so why invite them in?
100% law-abiding citizens aren't doing hit and runs especially when they've made their face well known.


The guy in a suit driving an audi around downtown Chicago who pulled off the clever-but-deviant hit-and-run on a pedestrian, wonder what he was on the lamb for.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:33 am 
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She should of drove off like the two people who have hit my car in the past. Though one guy actually ran away and left his car in the middle of the road cause it wasn't drivable :lol: :lol:.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:34 am 
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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I don't care how many people you work with or how many friends you have. I'm looking at your post. If she talks like you then you don't assume she is here illegally. You went on an immigration rant based on 2 words.
Clearly there was something illegal she was involved in. What would you suspect for her? Murderer? Drug dealer? Bank Fraud?


Suspended or revoked license or a outstanding warrant.
To me, that is worse than thinking someone may be an illegal immigrant.


Those are generally the reason most people run from an accident. That and alcohol.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:35 am 
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In Illinois, driving without a valid license is a Class B misdemeanor offense. The potential penalties for this offense include up to 180 days in jail, and a maximum fine of $1500. Driving without a valid license is punished as severely as other crimes like possession of cannabis, criminal trespass, etc.


For hit and run:
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Under Illinois law, drivers are required to stop and lend assistance whenever they are involved in an accident that involves personal injury or damage to property. Failing to do so can result in criminal charges for leaving the scene of an accident. Whether you are charged with a misdemeanor or a felony depends primarily on what type of damage was caused. If there is only property damage (i.e. from a parking lot accident), you will most likely be charged with a Class A misdemeanor.
When an accident results in personal injury and a driver fails to stop and help, that driver is typically charged with a Class 4 felony. A conviction on this charge can result in a sentence or up to three years in prison and a $25,000 fine.


Both a Class A misdemanor and a Class 4 felony are more severe punishments.

So, this person risked far more jail time and fines to run if it was simply a license issue.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:35 am 
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Nas wrote:

You wouldn't have assumed that I was here illegally if I did the same.

Yes, I would have. If you came up to me with broken english and then fled the scene, id assume you were illegal.


If you spoke good english, Id assume you have some legal trouble and you cant deal with police.


And of course you dont care about my friends or co workers because that blows up your whole argument.

If I really thought No english = illegal, Id assume all those people I work with are illegal. But I dont, because they didnt flee the scene of an accident


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Those are generally the reason most people run from an accident. That and alcohol.
Oh, come on. You don't think threat of deportation is another reason?

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Those are generally the reason most people run from an accident. That and alcohol.

Oh, weve established she has no license.

I dont think most accidents that occur around the afternoon rush are drunks.


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I'm not sure who you're arguing with here. I never accused RPB of using a racial stereotype. You do know she was Mexican though, don't you? Maybe I'm the one who is stereotyping, but I'd feel very comfortable betting my house against $1,000 that she was Mexican.
but would you bet $10,000 ?


He would....

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
For the record:
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In Illinois, driving without a valid license is a Class B misdemeanor offense. The potential penalties for this offense include up to 180 days in jail, and a maximum fine of $1500. Driving without a valid license is punished as severely as other crimes like possession of cannabis, criminal trespass, etc.


For hit and run:
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Under Illinois law, drivers are required to stop and lend assistance whenever they are involved in an accident that involves personal injury or damage to property. Failing to do so can result in criminal charges for leaving the scene of an accident. Whether you are charged with a misdemeanor or a felony depends primarily on what type of damage was caused. If there is only property damage (i.e. from a parking lot accident), you will most likely be charged with a Class A misdemeanor.
When an accident results in personal injury and a driver fails to stop and help, that driver is typically charged with a Class 4 felony. A conviction on this charge can result in a sentence or up to three years in prison and a $25,000
Both a Class A misdemanor and a Class 3 felony are more severe punishments.

So, this person risked far more jail time and fines to run if it was simply a license issue.


That's a better reason to run than being an illegal immigrant. It's a more logical and less racist reason.

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I dont think most accidents that occur around the afternoon rush are drunks.
That is correct. They are caused by illegal aliens.

You dirty racist.

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I'm not sure who you're arguing with here. I never accused RPB of using a racial stereotype. You do know she was Mexican though, don't you? Maybe I'm the one who is stereotyping, but I'd feel very comfortable betting my house against $1,000 that she was Mexican.
but would you bet $10,000 ?


My first thought was Polish.

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Ya know what, Nas is partially right. I admit it.


Fleeing the scene led me to believe she was in some sort of legal trouble.

The fact that she had no license and spoke broken english (any color from any country) led me to believe the most likely legal issue was immigration status.


If thinking that immigration is the most likely crime of people who live in America and dont speak english is stereotyping, then Im guilty


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Both a Class A misdemanor and a Class 3 felony are more severe punishments.

So, this person risked far more jail time and fines to run if it was simply a license issue.



maybe she left her Iillinois consolidated criminal statutes QB armband at home that day.


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Its just crazy I mean we bend over backwards to make sure we got all our stickers, pass all the emissions tests, have your insurance and your license current and got people like this rolling around with no worries


Yup. I wonder if these folks are able to vote?

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She should of drove off




It's "should have" .... are you in this country legally?



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NearWessSideHussra wrote:
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Both a Class A misdemanor and a Class 3 felony are more severe punishments.

So, this person risked far more jail time and fines to run if it was simply a license issue.



maybe she left her Iillinois consolidated criminal statutes QB armband at home that day.
She obviously knew the rules enough to know she was in big trouble if the police showed up.

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Important distinctiion: It wasnt just a straight hit and run like Hussra's buddy


This was a hit, offer up a no police deal, then run. That changes things.


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I think the fact that she suggested no police adds to the "she was probably an illegal" thought as well.

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She should of drove off




It's "should have" .... are you in this country legally?



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I think the fact that she suggested no police adds to the "she was probably an illegal" thought as well.


No one doubted your belief based on the way you tried to justify what others said.

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I don't care what you think, Nas. You were the one being completely unreasonable in this thread.

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I don't care what you think, Nas. You were the one being completely unreasonable in this thread.


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I don't care what you think, Nas. You were the one being completely unreasonable in this thread.


If what I did in this thread was unreasonable I never want to be reasonable. You care or you wouldn't try to justify your ignorant viewpoint.

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