so what broad assumptions would you have made about Nas? he must be wanted by the police? got drugs on him?

Again, I'm not chiding you, but that seems inconsistent with a lot of your other thoughts. I mean, do you think these people don't want to be citizens? Think if your life was so shitty that you packed up a couple shirts and a few pesos to have some guy you're not sure you can trust and who you are paying a lifetime of savings to take you across a river and/or drive you without food or water in the back of a truck and then let you out in some foreign land where maybe you can work for a slave wage chasing chickens for Smithfield or something, and that's a whole lot better than where you came from. I just find such harsh judgment of people uncharacteristic coming from you.

Frank

We as a country have invited illegal immigration across our southern borders since at least 1980. We have applied a band aid, or little to no aid , in keeping out folks from Mexico most specifically.

They have done jobs that many other Americans have no interest in doing. Shit, there are people here that have been unemployed that wouldn't take these types of jobs under any circumstances.

Now after years of tacit approval with a struggling economy of our own, we want to break up families and ship the parents of kids back to where they came.

It's morally unconscionable for our government to do this.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

We as a country have invited illegal immigration across our southern borders since at least 1980. We have applied a band aid, or little to no aid , in keeping out folks from Mexico most specifically.

Now after years of tacit approval with a struggling economy of our own, we want to break up families and ship the parents of kids back to where they came.

Thank you for the history lesson, professor.

But other than that....what the hell are you babbling about? I'm not talking about raiding Illegal's homes and taking them out by the busload. RPB's point was-- and I agree with him-- that if an illegal immigrant commits a felony, he should be deported. Regardless of if he goes to prison or is shipped back to whatever country he came from, that family is going to be broken up, correct? And that is a consequence of his own action, not the Governments.

Is it "morally unconscionable" for our government to lock up a serial killer because it would break up the family? Please.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

RPB when I read your comments it made me wonder what you may say about me if you were upset.

After meeting me a few times you may be surprised to hear that I'm black. I'm probably a little more sensitive than most people around here to racial issues and ethnic stereotypes. You and others may have no hate in your hearts but the views sound bad. The same logic you all use has and is used by racist to explain their views.

so what broad assumptions would you have made about Nas? he must be wanted by the police? got drugs on him?

Invited? More like incompetence.

I don't know if there are any legitimate plans to do this. It sounds really sad though so I understand why you'd include it.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

That wasn't RPB's original point.

That wasn't RPB's original point

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Because more people have been deported in the last five years than any other time in history. Some of whom are picked up in traffic stops and shipped out of the country without ever seeing their families again. It's sad, and very true.

And I personally believe that our country has turned a blind eye to much of what has gone on near out southern borders.

I guess my assumption that she was an illegal immigrant because she couldnt speak english and left the scene of a minor crime is rubbing people the wrong way.

Pick a lane. In your first paragraph, you seem upset they are enforcing the rules. In the second paragraph, you seem upset they didn't enforce the rules well enough.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

BIBGO! (What was that infamous typo?)

Only brought it up becuase you are usually one of the champions of racial justice.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

The government allows people in through porous borders.

ICE sends people back when the local cops pick them up.

I'm not seeing consistency from the government. Are you?

I don't think the government allows people in. They just aren't good enough to stop all illegal immigration. Are you arguing that immigration enforcement shouldn't be done after someone is here for 24 hours or more?

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

Don't you think starting a Douchebag thread about CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS is kind of Northian/Limbaughian? Is that the territory you want to camp out in? If so, fine, own it. Don't be surprised when you might ruffle a few feathers.

Maybe she was a citizen but had a trunkload of pot. Would that have been OK?

Well, were at the point, were this person has fled the scene of an accident because the other driver wouldnt agree to "no police"

fair assumption they have some legal issue, right?

Still not seeing where an accent or the ability to speak English well gets factored in.

Still not seeing where an accent or the ability to speak English well gets factored in.

This thread could have been a DB aimed at people that don't take responsibility for their actions.

Instead, we're assuming this person is A) an illegal and b) did what they did because they are an illegal.

...And I'm the bad person because I criticize Israel's government and their recent history of alienating people's human rights?

...And I'm the bad person because I criticize Israel's government and their recent history of alienating people's human rights?

I made some edits above - maybe too slowly.

And the person had some reason to bounce - clearly. No reason would be a good one... and while I can innocently take some guesses...I won't assume I'm right on any of them.

You didn't douchebag the woman who hit your daughter's mother's car.

You douchebagged a large group of people completely unrelated to what happened. And you assume the woman did what she did because she MIGHT be a part of that group.