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“Michael Sam benched 225 pounds 17 times, second-worst among defensive lineman. Seven WRs did more.” From MMQB

He better run a 4.6 or better or he may fall out of the draft altogether.

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“Michael Sam benched 225 pounds 17 times, second-worst among defensive lineman. Seven WRs did more.” From MMQB

He better run a 4.6 or better or he may fall out of the draft altogether.

Maybe he should have been working out instead of his speaking tour.

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“Michael Sam benched 225 pounds 17 times, second-worst among defensive lineman. Seven WRs did more.” From MMQB

He better run a 4.6 or better or he may fall out of the draft altogether.

17 ?? wow a guy that big should do more. Dudes a little lite in his loafers if you ask me

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Sam
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“Michael Sam benched 225 pounds 17 times, second-worst among defensive lineman. Seven WRs did more.” From MMQB

He better run a 4.6 or better or he may fall out of the draft altogether.

Maybe he should have been working out instead of his speaking tour.


I think it's possible that his speaking tour was a preeminent strike.

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I thought he was a LBer? If so, how do those numbers rank among LBers?

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I thought he was a LBer? If so, how do those numbers rank among LBers?

He played defensive end in college, but even if it is LB if 7 receivers outlift you that is not good.

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“Michael Sam benched 225 pounds 17 times, second-worst among defensive lineman. Seven WRs did more.” From MMQB

He better run a 4.6 or better or he may fall out of the draft altogether.

4.79


BOTTOM LINE A productive, 4-3 weakside rusher who came on as a senior and it made his last season his best. Could fit most ideally as a 3-4 outside linebacker in a zone-blitzing scheme like the Steelers or Ravens. Compares favorably to Chargers 2009 first-round pick Larry English, an overhyped, overdrafted, marginal producer in the pros.


Sounds about right. 3rd rounder
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I thought he was a LBer? If so, how do those numbers rank among LBers?

He played defensive end in college, but even if it is LB if 7 receivers outlift you that is not good.


I could do that and I'm not as big as him.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
“Michael Sam benched 225 pounds 17 times, second-worst among defensive lineman. Seven WRs did more.” From MMQB

He better run a 4.6 or better or he may fall out of the draft altogether.

4.79


BOTTOM LINE A productive, 4-3 weakside rusher who came on as a senior and it made his last season his best. Could fit most ideally as a 3-4 outside linebacker in a zone-blitzing scheme like the Steelers or Ravens. Compares favorably to Chargers 2009 first-round pick Larry English, an overhyped, overdrafted, marginal producer in the pros.


Sounds about right. 3rd rounder

RPB, is there a site where you can get all of that information?

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
“Michael Sam benched 225 pounds 17 times, second-worst among defensive lineman. Seven WRs did more.” From MMQB

He better run a 4.6 or better or he may fall out of the draft altogether.

4.79


BOTTOM LINE A productive, 4-3 weakside rusher who came on as a senior and it made his last season his best. Could fit most ideally as a 3-4 outside linebacker in a zone-blitzing scheme like the Steelers or Ravens. Compares favorably to Chargers 2009 first-round pick Larry English, an overhyped, overdrafted, marginal producer in the pros.


Sounds about right. 3rd rounder


His problem is guys like Larry English and Shea McClellin.

He's not a linebacker. He's a hand on the ground rush end that is nowhere near as quick as a guy like Robert Mathis.

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Seacrest wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
“Michael Sam benched 225 pounds 17 times, second-worst among defensive lineman. Seven WRs did more.” From MMQB

He better run a 4.6 or better or he may fall out of the draft altogether.

4.79


BOTTOM LINE A productive, 4-3 weakside rusher who came on as a senior and it made his last season his best. Could fit most ideally as a 3-4 outside linebacker in a zone-blitzing scheme like the Steelers or Ravens. Compares favorably to Chargers 2009 first-round pick Larry English, an overhyped, overdrafted, marginal producer in the pros.


Sounds about right. 3rd rounder


His problem is guys like Larry English and Shea McClellin.

He's not a linebacker. He's a hand on the ground rush end that is nowhere near as quick as a guy like Robert Mathis.

He might provide tighter coverage though.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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“Michael Sam benched 225 pounds 17 times, second-worst among defensive lineman. Seven WRs did more.” From MMQB

He better run a 4.6 or better or he may fall out of the draft altogether.

4.79


BOTTOM LINE A productive, 4-3 weakside rusher who came on as a senior and it made his last season his best. Could fit most ideally as a 3-4 outside linebacker in a zone-blitzing scheme like the Steelers or Ravens. Compares favorably to Chargers 2009 first-round pick Larry English, an overhyped, overdrafted, marginal producer in the pros.


Sounds about right. 3rd rounder


His problem is guys like Larry English and Shea McClellin.

He's not a linebacker. He's a hand on the ground rush end that is nowhere near as quick as a guy like Robert Mathis.

He might provide tighter coverage though.


Holding will still be a penalty though.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
“Michael Sam benched 225 pounds 17 times, second-worst among defensive lineman. Seven WRs did more.” From MMQB

He better run a 4.6 or better or he may fall out of the draft altogether.

4.79


BOTTOM LINE A productive, 4-3 weakside rusher who came on as a senior and it made his last season his best. Could fit most ideally as a 3-4 outside linebacker in a zone-blitzing scheme like the Steelers or Ravens. Compares favorably to Chargers 2009 first-round pick Larry English, an overhyped, overdrafted, marginal producer in the pros.


Sounds about right. 3rd rounder

RPB, is there a site where you can get all of that information?

No, that's just my take and guess on his time
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http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers#year=2014&workout=FORTY_YARD_DASH&position=QB-RB-WR-TE-S-DL-LB-CB-OL-SPEC
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“Michael Sam benched 225 pounds 17 times, second-worst among defensive lineman. Seven WRs did more.” From MMQB

He better run a 4.6 or better or he may fall out of the draft altogether.

4.79


BOTTOM LINE A productive, 4-3 weakside rusher who came on as a senior and it made his last season his best. Could fit most ideally as a 3-4 outside linebacker in a zone-blitzing scheme like the Steelers or Ravens. Compares favorably to Chargers 2009 first-round pick Larry English, an overhyped, overdrafted, marginal producer in the pros.


Sounds about right. 3rd rounder


His problem is guys like Larry English and Shea McClellin.

He's not a linebacker. He's a hand on the ground rush end that is nowhere near as quick as a guy like Robert Mathis.

Right. Dont take him in the 1st.

3rd at earliest. 4th is probably best.
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He was listed as 3rd to 5th round before the combine.

He didn't elevate his draft status with his workouts. I think he will be drafted though.

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He's hoping by San Francisco.

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He's hoping by San Francisco.



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Seacrest wrote:
“Michael Sam benched 225 pounds 17 times, second-worst among defensive lineman. Seven WRs did more.” From MMQB

He better run a 4.6 or better or he may fall out of the draft altogether.

4.79


BOTTOM LINE A productive, 4-3 weakside rusher who came on as a senior and it made his last season his best. Could fit most ideally as a 3-4 outside linebacker in a zone-blitzing scheme like the Steelers or Ravens. Compares favorably to Chargers 2009 first-round pick Larry English, an overhyped, overdrafted, marginal producer in the pros.


Sounds about right. 3rd rounder


He's bringing up the rear in all of these events. That may be by design.

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Those combine numbers don't look like 3-4th round numbers to me.
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
“Michael Sam benched 225 pounds 17 times, second-worst among defensive lineman. Seven WRs did more.” From MMQB

He better run a 4.6 or better or he may fall out of the draft altogether.

4.79


BOTTOM LINE A productive, 4-3 weakside rusher who came on as a senior and it made his last season his best. Could fit most ideally as a 3-4 outside linebacker in a zone-blitzing scheme like the Steelers or Ravens. Compares favorably to Chargers 2009 first-round pick Larry English, an overhyped, overdrafted, marginal producer in the pros.


Sounds about right. 3rd rounder


He's bringing up the rear in all of these events. That may be by design.



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Those combine numbers don't look like 3-4th round numbers to me.


Wait until pro day

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Those combine numbers don't look like 3-4th round numbers to me.


They are not.

And he knew that when he made his announcement.

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Per the site, his official time is 4.91.

I swear that exact grey box said 4.79 earlier. I guess it's an aggregate maybe?
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Per the site, his official time is 4.91.


J'Marcus Webb was faster than that. He's going to have to find something from within to improve on that over the next month.

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Per the site, his official time is 4.91.

I swear that exact grey box said 4.79 earlier. I guess it's an aggregate maybe?

Missouri defensive end Michael Sam false-started off the blocks on his initial 40-yard dash attempt at 11:30 a.m. ET, and posted an unofficial 4.79-second time in his next attempt. Sam wrapped up with a 4.84 on his second completed 40. The "official" time recognized by the NFL is 4.91.
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Per the site, his official time is 4.91.


J'Marcus Webb was faster than that. He's going to have to find something from within to improve on that over the next month.



If he doesn't announce that he is gay, he never would have been drafted.

Belichick or Harbaugh will take a flyer in the 6th or 7th round.

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