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The river of bullshit is running thick when a middle reliever is being touted in the early spring



Cub fans have been seen water skiing in that same river.

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That is more than likely from Soler and his bat after someone cut him off on his way into the complex.

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Didn't I see that guy playing minor league football in Kentucky in the off season

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Jason Parks at Baseball Prospectus has put out the 2014 Organization rankings and boy does he love the Cubs putting them at #2 overall. Here is what he has to say:

2. Chicago Cubs

Farm System Ranking in 2013: 12

State of the System: Thanks to a strong draft, clever trades, an aggressive acquisition plan in the international market, and developmental progress from some of the big names in the system, the Cubs became one of the strongest systems in the game.

Top Prospect: Javier Baez (4)

Breakout Candidates for 2014: Jeimer Candelario and Paul Blackburn

Prospects on the BP 101: 7 Baez (4) Bryant (17) Almora (25) Soler (45) Edwards (81) Alcantara (83) Pierce Johnson (91)

Must-See Affiliate: Double-A Tennessee

Prospects to See There: Kris Bryant, Albert Almora, Jorge Soler, CJ Edwards, Pierce Johnson, Dan Vogelbach

Farm System Trajectory for 2015: Up. While its likely that several of the Cubs’ top prospects will get a taste of the majors in 2014, the majority of the talent will remain eligible for next season’s list, and if you add to the mix a high draft pick this June and an extreme amount of young depth ready to make their stateside debuts, the system could take over the coveted rank of number one in baseball.

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I have serious doubts about that ranking because the Cubs minor leagues are not stocked with pitching. From what I have read,they have a few guys here and there.

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I have serious doubts about that ranking because the Cubs minor leagues are not stocked with pitching. From what I have read,they have a few guys here and there.


Parks was asked about this and said

"talent is talent"

"would you rather have balance and fewer players or depth?"

Where do you rank them Jimmy?

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I can't answer that because outside of the Cubs,I'm not following other teams minor leagues.
I would guess the Cubs are in the top 7 at least.

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I really do not understand the concept of minor league depth. Who cares about anything but guys who are going to be major league players?

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I really do not understand the concept of minor league depth. Who cares about anything but guys who are going to be major league players?

I would guess its saying its better to have 5 OF's who might contribute at the major league level, than one.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
I really do not understand the concept of minor league depth. Who cares about anything but guys who are going to be major league players?

I would guess its saying its better to have 5 OF's who might contribute at the major league level, than one.


Is it? I hear all the time of guys picked up in the off season for depth in the minor league system, like I care that Winston Salem has six starting pitchers

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good dolphin wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
I really do not understand the concept of minor league depth. Who cares about anything but guys who are going to be major league players?

I would guess its saying its better to have 5 OF's who might contribute at the major league level, than one.


Is it? I hear all the time of guys picked up in the off season for depth in the minor league system, like I care that Winston Salem has six starting pitchers

Well, that's dumb


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A Baez bomb!

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I like it. He's got "kill a baby in a stroller" power.

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Almora just knocked in a RBI single and now Olt has ripped a 2-run bomb!!!!

Wildcard 2014!!!!!!!

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The Kids Can Play in AAA.


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Almora just knocked in a RBI single and now Olt has ripped a 2-run bomb!!!!

Wildcard 2014!!!!!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

:lol: Remember these good times when you are watching Emilio Bonafico and Luis Valbuena everyday come April

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At some point, you gotta figure a couple of these kids are going to force some hands halfway into the season.

Hopefully.

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Kirkwood wrote:
Almora just knocked in a RBI single and now Olt has ripped a 2-run bomb!!!!

Wildcard 2014!!!!!!!

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:lol: Remember these good times when you are watching Emilio Bonafico and Luis Valbuena everyday come April

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At some point, you gotta figure a couple of these kids are going to force some hands halfway into the season.

Hopefully.


Oh man.

I hope not. Other than Bryant, I don't see any of them being close. Even Bryant could use another season elsewhere.

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immessedup17 wrote:
At some point, you gotta figure a couple of these kids are going to force some hands halfway into the season.

Hopefully.


Oh man.

I hope not. Other than Bryant, I don't see any of them being close. Even Bryant could use another season elsewhere.

How long can you keep a guy like Baez in the minors? I know his defense is bad, but you cant have a guy have back to back 40 hr seasons in the minors, can you?


Also, Alcantara is close.


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As said, Baez and Alcantara. Both could still improve, but might not have anything left to prove come June or July. Castro can make it difficult on one of them.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
City of Fools wrote:
immessedup17 wrote:
At some point, you gotta figure a couple of these kids are going to force some hands halfway into the season.

Hopefully.


Oh man.

I hope not. Other than Bryant, I don't see any of them being close. Even Bryant could use another season elsewhere.

How long can you keep a guy like Baez in the minors? I know his defense is bad, but you cant have a guy have back to back 40 hr seasons in the minors, can you?


Also, Alcantara is close.

I still don't like his inability to wait back on offspeed/curveballs/sliders etc. Dead red fastball hitter right now, guesses pitches and gets out way in front of non-fastballs. I think another year of adjusting his mentality at the plate somewhat would help, and that shouldn't happen on the major league level. Alcantara is indeed close but must prove he can stay healthy.

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Just 2 years ago, Mike Olt was the 2nd best prospect in what was perhaps the game's strongest farm system. Baseball America had him as the 22nd best prospect in all of baseball. That was behind only Javier Baez among Cubs prospects. He was basically about as untouchable as Kris Bryant is today.

Then mysterious vision issues led to a horrendous 2013 season. With the Rangers having Adrian Beltre at 3B and numerous infield prospects on the way, Olt suddenly became expendable enough to be included as part of a 4 player package for 2 months of Matt Garza. In fact, at the time many Cubs fans were most excited about the pitching they received. They had just drafted a 3B 2nd overall in Bryant and many believe that Baez was/is a candidate to be the 3B of the future. There is also depth in the system with Christian Villanueva and Jeimer Candelario. What's more, Olt's performance did not improve upon joining the Cubs. It actually got worse. Obviously this was not a case that a simple change of scenery could solve.

However, it turns out the solution may be even easier than that. Olt's issues have seemingly stemmed, at least in part, to allergy issues that affected his vision. The Cubs believe they have the right medication now and Olt is slowly beginning to make people believe he can be the player many thought he was just last spring.

Here is what Baseball America said about him just over a year ago in February of 2013,

With plus raw power and strong hitting approach, Olt is a threat to go deep anytime he steps to the plate. He works deep counts and piles up both walks and strikeouts, so his average will settle in the .260-.270 range...Scouts say Olt is a joy to watch defensively, owing to his agility and ability to make throws from any angle... A potential all-star, he could open 2013 in the big league lineup or get a couple of months in Triple-A.

If Olt is healthy, we can almost apply that description to the upcoming 2014 season. Does Olt get a do-over?

Even if he does, it doesn't guarantee him a job. We have to remember the Cubs got surprisingly good production from a 3-headed platoon monster at 3B last year. Together they managed a respectable .320 OBP with 31 HRs, a .770 OPS, and above average defense overall. That said, the Cubs got 20 HRs from Donnie Murphy and Cody Ransom. It's a lot to expect for that to happen again. It seems far-fetched to me that the Cubs can expect a repeat of that kind of performance from the short side of a platoon.

So perhaps Olt will get a legit shot to win that 3B job and if not, he'll be on speed dial at Iowa. There are no real concerns here about cost-control. Olt only has 33 MLB at-bats and is 25. He'll turn 26 in August. He still has his 6 years of cost control and won't be arb eligible until 2017. That means he'll be 33 when he becomes a free agent and 29 when he will file for his first arbitration. There really is no reason to hold him back from a financial standpoint if he's ready.

He certainly seems to be seeing the ball well. He has impressed the Cubs in practice and then yesterday hit an absolute bomb way beyond the LF fence. Back in November, we wondered whether Olt may be a key piece for the Cubs rebuilding process in 2014 in part due to some optimistic projections from Bill James that sees him as outproducing Luis Valbuena in 2014. Olt seems on the verge of providing us with an answer this spring.

If anything does hold Olt back, it's the sore shoulder that has prevented him from playing 3B this spring. Olt can play 1B at Iowa while he recovers, a luxury he wouldn't have on the MLB team with Anthony Rizzo on the roster.

If Olt is able to win and retain the Cubs 3B job, it begins to change the complexion of the team for both past and present. It pushes Valbuena to a utility role and Donnie Murphy into a battle for a utility infielder spot with Emilio Bonafacio, Logan Watkins, and Ryan Roberts. Additionally, Valbuena becomes a short term MLB ready substitute for incumbent 2B Darwin Barney should Barney struggle again.

Deeper in the system, success by Olt puts top prospect Baez in a position where he'll almost certainly play a middle infield position, which is what he prefers. With Castro at SS, Baez could move to 2B and give the Cubs an infield that should be well above average on both offense and defense. Meanwhile, Kris Bryant has the bat to play a corner position in the OF. With Castillo catching and Almora looking about as sure a bet as any prospect in the Cubs system right now, the Cubs could have 8 long term position players in place by sometime next season.

But the first domino is Olt and it appears he just may be the guy to fall and start the chain of events that lead the Cubs into a new and exciting era of baseball.

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It is going to be so fun but also sad to see this team lose to the Dodgers in the NLCS come October. What a second half it will be with Baez and Olt just crushing the ball. Plus the play in wildcard game against the Pirates will be a lot of fun.

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It is going to be so fun but also sad to see this team lose to the Dodgers in the NLCS come October. What a second half it will be with Baez and Olt just crushing the ball. Plus the play in wildcard game against the Pirates will be a lot of fun.

Agreed


What if they ALL made the team out of camp? Id be pretty excited. (I know its not possible, prudent, or good for their development)


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I guess from reading the article,Olt has the best chance?

Fine with me,I would like to see some new blood. I think starting pitching will
be an issue this year.

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I guess from reading the article,Olt has the best chance?

Fine with me,I would like to see some new blood. I think starting pitching will
be an issue this year.


Starting pitching just needs to be adequate. They are going to be dropping 8 runs a game on these other fools.

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