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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:34 am 
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Great series on the History channel about some of the most powerful men throughout US history. Carnegie, Rockefeller, Morgan, and Ford just to name a few (of course none of them earned their wealth :P ) I've seen it before, but it's on again this weekend. Interesting shit if you like history.

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Excellent series indeed.


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Can you imagine the crap some of these great men would have taken in the current climate/technology communication age?

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Great series on the History channel about some of the most powerful men throughout US history. Carnegie, Rockefeller, Morgan, and Ford just to name a few (of course none of them earned their wealth :P ) I've seen it before, but it's on again this weekend. Interesting shit if you like history.


Great program, was watching it today on H2. I really liked the cuts and thoughts from modern day business men, as well.

Hopefully none of them have their kids run over.


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Great series on the History channel about some of the most powerful men throughout US history. Carnegie, Rockefeller, Morgan, and Ford just to name a few (of course none of them earned their wealth :P ) I've seen it before, but it's on again this weekend. Interesting shit if you like history.


Great program, was watching it today on H2. I really liked the cuts and thoughts from modern day business men, as well.

Hopefully none of them have their kids run over.


Root, root, root for the rich guy!

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I root for them. Thanks for the jobs.

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denisdman wrote:
I root for them. Thanks for the jobs.

No Denis! Nooooooo!

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Can you imagine the crap some of these great men would have taken in the current climate/technology communication age?


They weren't all great men. Some of them were downright scum bags, as is evidenced in the show.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:36 pm 
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Nope. Harriman, Morgan, and Rockefeller have already driven over them. No one can earn a million dollars honestly.

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Nope. Harriman, Morgan, and Rockefeller have already driven over them. No one can earn a million dollars honestly.


So what's the OFFICIAL "How Much a Person Can Make Honestly" threshold? $50,000? $5.00? .50 cents?


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No one can earn a million dollars honestly.

Of course they can.

I would see your point if you had said $100 million or $1 billion.

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FavreFan wrote:
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No one can earn a million dollars honestly.

Of course they can.

I would see your point if you had said $100 million or $1 billion.


It's a quote from William Jennings Bryan. I don't mind if you adjust for inflation.

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Nope. Harriman, Morgan, and Rockefeller have already driven over them. No one can earn a million dollars honestly.


So what's the OFFICIAL "How Much a Person Can Make Honestly" threshold? $50,000? $5.00? .50 cents?



I'm not sure. How many honest men do you know?

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Why do you hate people with more money than you?

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Why do you hate people with more money than you?


Why do you hate people with less?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Why do you hate people with more money than you?


Why do you hate people with less?

How bout judging a man based on the contents of their character and not the color of their credit card?

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You know Jorr I am not sure if you troll on this subject or not... But aside from this subject you are an awesome poster.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Why do you hate people with more money than you?


Why do you hate people with less?

Oops. You fail this round.

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Darkside wrote:
Why do you hate people with more money than you?


I can't answer for JORR, but I can tell you that even though I don't hate people with more money, I will be quick to point out the absurdity of any rich person who thinks they are harder-working or smarter than anyone else simply because they became rich (or were born rich). That was the argument in the Sam Zell thread.

Now, back to the show... How about that steel company!?

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You know Jorr I am not sure if you troll on this subject or not... But aside from this subject you are an awesome poster.


Believe me, I'm not trolling. I think for many men of my age there is a struggle between an attraction to and a revulsion for American capitalism. Hell, there is an entire genre of fiction to devoted to such a concept.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Darkside wrote:
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Why do you hate people with less?


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Any mention of Henry Ford's blatant/disgusting/ignorant antisemitism?


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
pittmike wrote:
You know Jorr I am not sure if you troll on this subject or not... But aside from this subject you are an awesome poster.


Believe me, I'm not trolling. I think for many men of my age there is a struggle between an attraction to and a revulsion for American capitalism. Hell, there is an entire genre of fiction to devoted to such a concept.


OK fair enough. To be honest I do not feel I have made my family high enough to be able to tell others how much is too much.

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So money is like driving on the highway.
To paraphrase a Carlin bit... "you ever notice that anyone going faster that you on the highway is AN IDIOT! and everyone going slower than you is a MORON!"

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i think he said "maniac" for faster.


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i think he said "maniac" for faster.

Yeah. That's why I went with paraphrase. :evil: :evil:

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yes but you cannot paraphrase here. leave now.


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yes but you cannot paraphrase here. leave now.

Well damn.

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NearWessSideHussra wrote:
Any mention of Henry Ford's blatant/disgusting antisemitism?


Actually this is a good point. When I asked my first question I wondered. Should we now judge these guys by today's standards as they "built" this country? I am certain these fathers of America would never stand up to todays standards and maybe they couldn't get rich without say discrimination?

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