Personally I'm more interested in seeing more of Fukunaga's work than Pizzolatto's, and I think next season will be hard pressed to live up to this one visually without his directing.

He wrote two episodes of The Killing, but they are two very good episodes. I thought it was more than that. Read some reviews of Galveston. People like Dennis Lehane rank it among the best American noir novels to have emerged in the past 10-15 years. Several critics have compared him to Hammett and Chandler, who are, for my money, two of the most important figures in 20th century American literature. I should also also add that Galveston netted him the Edgar Award, which I respect quite a bit, for best first novel. I plan on reading his book in the next month and will let you know what I think. But all indications are that he is a major new voice in the noir genre, which I consider indispensable for those attempting to understand the development of racial, gender and national identity in contemporary America.

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the killing was awesome. sucks it got cancelled

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Only read the thread up through Ep 3, since that's all I've seen so far.

Wow .

Already the second best show of the last five years behind BB. Of course, haven't seen the following three episodes, yet, but DAMN!

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Exactly how I feel. the Wire, the shield and Deadwood rounding out the top 5.

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Didn't make it through the first season of the Wire, too boring. Deadwood was great for 1 season, pretty good for season 2 and horrible for season 3. Shouldn't appear anywhere near a top 20 list, let alone a top 5. Olyphant's current show Justified is much better than Deadwood.

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YOU MUST SEE EP. #4. Run, don't walk.

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The motherfucker is lying.


High praise from a bartender.

We finally find out who the mole was back in 95.

And Martys daughters doll rape scene was set up pretty similarly to the ritual on the tape.

I wonder how they are going to tie up all the loose ends all in an hour. I could see this season ending in an unsatisfactory way. Rust did mention wanting to tie up his circle. They've hardly exposed the whole web of conspiracy. Rust just has theories and ideas. How much can that sheriff possibly know?

I cannot wait for next week. Sunday will be bittersweet.

Agree with all of this. I cant imagine how they will possibly tie up the storyline involving all those signs of abuse from Marty's daughter. And that isn't something you can write off as a red herring, it's several major hints at it and it seems like a vital part of this entire season. I don't think everything is going to be tied up in a nice, neat, little bow Breaking Bad-style. Still cant wait for it and the season has been strong enough so far that it would have to be an especially terrible ending for it to actually ruin what has been an incredible season of tv so far.

Very good episode overall. Moved more slowly than I would have liked at times but as always there was some awesome dialogue.

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Seriously one of the more impressive sets Ive ever seen. She was playing possum with the baggy sweatshirt

Exactly what Ive done.

Im thru 3 and a half episodes.

Pretty helpful to see it sorted out:

My prediction- Marty is going to die. The way Maggie went into the bar and asked if Marty was in danger. I have to think it was setting it up for his death.

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I think there is a great chance both of them die. I think Rust might kill himself after everything gets resolved.

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Rust wants to die for sure, and he was quite disappointed when that lady spoke of life after death. The guy really wants thing to end.

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I do enjoy the somewhat meta comments about Marty saying goodbye and Rust wanting to die as the season draws to a close and their characters only having one hour of "life" left, regardless of what plays out on the screen.

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I haven't been impressed with the last two episodes. They have kind of devolved into what Pizzolato called police show conventions.

You could write off the daughter stuff if it hadn't been so specific with the dolls and the circle picture. I have absolutely no idea how they can tie that up next week. I don't know if it is a two hour ending, but even with that time, it would be difficult to address the daughter.

The makeup people on this show have done a fantastic job of subtley showing the aging of the characters. In one week, Maggie went from horny MILF showing her rear to aging dowager in a pants suit with a kind of chubby behind. Rust and Marty as well.

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I just hate that they are giving some flunkie significant time as a ring leader in what has to be a elaborate collaboration. I just see this ending with it getting pinned on the custodian, just like it did with Ledoux years ago, and the whole thing continues.

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Who? We really haven't seen any of the alleged collaborators get decent screen time. I don't mind the crimes being pinned on the Childress landscaper in the realm of the show as long as viewers get the who/what/why/how of the conspiracy/cult.

Do you remember the first scene in episode one, where the two guys are walking away from that tree in the dark? It looked like Marty was carrying Rust. Maybe, it's Marty rescuing Rust from something unseemly.

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The one thing about this show that I don't understand is the motive. Has anyone on the show ever explained/guessed as to why the Tuttles or whoever are killing all these women and children in the ceremonial ways???

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My guess is it has to do with the Tuttle's cult/family. Easy guess would be just a demented fixation on sex/murder and it's relation to god, but I've seen someone also predict it has something to do with redeeming the Tuttle family name. I don't personally understand how that would reconcile, but I guess maybe Errol could be leading that... but he seems like too much a of a goober to be leading something so complex.

I think it's just a form of worship

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Whenever Cohle really needs to get information out of someone, he lays hands on them and they blab away almost in a euphoric state. I pointed that out with the Marshland Madea case a couple of weeks ago.

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I really wish they would have a 20 minute wrap up show with the creator so he could explain some of the
symbolism, etc...

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I find it odd that you guys have spent 15 pages disecting this show yet none of you seem interested in motive. It seems like there are several people involved in the murders, maybe even more than 10, and they are hinting at who knows how many victims, yet no one seems curious as to what possible motive can bring that many people together to commit that many murders?

It would be one thing if we were dealing with a lone serial killer, but we're talking about lots of people. What could possibly inspire that many people to brutally and ceremonially kill that many women and children? Doesn't make sense to me.


I hope everyone here is preparing themselves for the possibility of a huge letdown next Sunday. Seems like this show needs a lot more than one more episode to sort everything out satisfactorily.

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I'm cautiously optimistic that they can resolve the series. They have an awful lot of ground to cover though. I really
think they could have gotten more done the past few episodes. I see the motive as being a cult religion. A lot of wars
and attrocities have happened over the centuries in the name of religion.

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