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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:12 pm 
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I love JVG. I think he does a great job compared to about 99.9% of color analysts of any sport.


Also,thanks to Dwayne Wade by taking 3 pt. shots in the closing minutes. I just read an article declaring him the worst 3-pt shot guy in NBA history. His % was like 33%,22% in the closing minutes.

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JVG: "Give me Hinrich! Any team, any time!" Someone throw a glass of water in his face, please.



Jeff Van Gundy has forgotten more about the NBA and basketball in general than Bernstein will ever know

he didn't say what he wanted him for...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:18 pm 
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jimmypasta wrote:
I love JVG.

Me Too

Loved him as a coach and now as an analyst


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jimmypasta wrote:
I love JVG. I think he does a great job compared to about 99.9% of color analysts of any sport.


Also,thanks to Dwayne Wade by taking 3 pt. shots in the closing minutes. I just read an article declaring him the worst 3-pt shot guy in NBA history. His % was like 33%,22% in the closing minutes.

Yeah, Wade's proclivity to Heroball it up late in games is awesome to witness.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:26 pm 
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Why is it championship or bust in the NBA and then they spend 7 months talking about two last place baseball teams?


Because in theory, the players you see today may be on that championship baseball team a few years from now, therefore the games have relevance, however small.

Contrast to the Bulls where none of the current players will be on the next Bulls championship team.

:lol:

The Bulls will win a championship before the Cubs or Sox will.

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Guys like Lil Danny can have all the stats in the world but it doesn't make a damn bit of difference because he doesn't understand the game.


Fixed it for you.

Why wouldn't the president of the company stand behind his product? But the story broke over a week ago, and there are a few caveats that cannot go unaddressed.

  • It will do little to nothing for fans at the game.
  • For the casual fan it will be one more piece of information that may or may not connect them better to the game (i.e., watching pitch tracks that always show the umpire made the right call is a disconnect)
  • The player who is always efficient but makes a "clutch" error is less desirable than the player who is "inefficient" but makes the key catch.
  • It will be in 3 markets, so even the data set will be incomplete.
  • The idea, bottom line, is to be more entertaining. Dumbasses who ignorantly spout "WAR" only entertain by displaying their dumbassery.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
JVG: "Give me Hinrich! Any team, any time!" Someone throw a glass of water in his face, please.



Jeff Van Gundy has forgotten more about the NBA and basketball in general than Bernstein will ever know


If you're being fair to JVG, I think it's a safe assumption that he loves players like Hinrich because of his willingness to play physical defense, not that he would want him to be his best player on a team, or some other exaggerated point that comes to the conclusion that Hinrich is a difference maker or better than he really is, which is what I'm sure Bernstein would attack JVG for saying.


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Ah, so today is a "we must get rid of Hawk Harrelson at all costs" day. Does that mean Thursday is a "d'aww shucks it just won't be the same without ol' Hawk Harrelson and we'll miss him when he's gone" day?

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the word "Hawk" hasn't yet been spoken.

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These replay "rules" are dumber than anything written on this board ever.

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These replay "rules" are dumber than anything written on this board ever.


yes. it will be a huge clusterfuck.

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It's annoying the way they all just giggle at Skolnick.

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Hey Berns, Bennett already re-upped with Seattle.

I always thought he left his heart in San Fran-cisco.

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Berns: Bears need top three picks to start from Day 1.

Common Sense: Hey buddy, that ain't happening.

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Oh, it could easily happen. J'Marcus Webb started....Chris Williams started. Bad draft picks seem to get PT with the Bears. Doesn't mean it was a good pick but they do get to play.


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Yeah, he was implying that had to be like, good, actually. I suppose you could argue Emery is due for a run of good luck.

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Really rough show so far. Dan thought he had some breaking news with the instant replay memo he picked up. If he had paid attention to the story when it first came out, he would have heard that. I had said the same thing back in December when it was announced. Then the much needed interview with the Heat insider. I don't get why they think Chicago listeners need the Heat guy every time they play. The guy doesn't bring nothing we haven't seen on ESPN, but he agrees with B&B, so he can stay around. Also, way to much Zach. Don't need him having a open mic.

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woah woah woah chief. This show has been WAY better than I thought it would be. I anticipated a bunch of Bulls meatball stuff. Mostly been Bears today. Only one caller so far.

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Matty! Not sounding like an ass! Being logical!

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Matty! Not sounding like an ass! Being logical!

:lol:


Yeah, good stuff. :lol:

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He is right. Dan is so far away from normal population.

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He is right. Dan is so far away from normal population.


Mike, if you speak to your team of financial advisors, they are going to tell you the same thing....

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Matt took a pretty decent shot with the let's let Dan do another PSA to raise tuition money for his kids. :shock: :lol:


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I understand that trust me. One main reason I have this job is my kids can go to Pitt for free. I guess many people are not talking to financial advisers and are hoping their kid goes to UIC or NIU.

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So, J. Noah is not a good basketball player?

Am I understanding this right?


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Oh, not this shit again.

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Bernstein: New MLB Cameras Will Expose Ignorant Announcers
March 9, 2014 6:06 PM

(CBS) You may have missed the news last week that’s going to change forever how we look at baseball.
It’s understandable if you failed to pay close attention to the eighth annual MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference in Boston, but the game improved last week in a way that has general managers and intellectually curious fans drooling. Some insecure longtime scouts will be nervous, however, as will some veteran broadcasters.
I’m looking at you, Hawk Harrelson. You too, Harold Reynolds.
Thanks to a revolutionary system of real-time data-collection via interconnected tracking cameras, three major league ballparks will provide instant information about every single movement on the field. Citi Field in New York, Target Field in Minneapolis and Milwaukee’s Miller Park are already online, up and running for this season. More parks will be ready as this year progresses, and it will be fully implemented across MLB for the start of 2015.
Everything quantifiable, measured either comparably to that of others or as a percentage of an ideal. Seven terabytes per game, accessible by the production truck in time for the first replay and in time to measure the opinion of anyone analyzing what they saw, or – more significantly – what they thought they saw.
As MLB Network’s Brian Kenny tweeted, “Data-haters in sports are about to be left behind … forever.”

So no more, “He took a really good route to that ball.” That now becomes, “Here you see what would have been a perfect route to that ball, and Mike Trout does a remarkable job of keeping 94 percent route-efficiency.”

No more, “Yu Darvish is really getting great rotation on his curveball.” That’s now, “His curve is averaging 1700 RPM, which is 100 more than it did in his last start and 12 percent above league average.”
Really wrap your head around this for a second, because I still don’t think enough awareness has been created about how significant this is.
The speed and vector of each movement can now be known for every player and the ball, all at once. We will see virtual heat maps of defensive range that include not just which balls a fielder gets to but how quickly and from exactly how far away. Baserunners will have their speed, jumps and route-efficiency known, too, as we can see who gives away valuable time with sloppy angles rounding the bags and who doesn’t. Which outfielders’ throws are most often true to perfect trajectory? Which hitters generate the highest batted-ball velocity, and on what pitches and where in the zone? We’re about to know.

Harrelson’s musty brand of “I’ve been around this game a long time” superiority just got vaporized. Right away we can put many cornpone musings about lively bats and good instincts to the test. Maybe he’s right more than not, even. The point is that actual knowledge is supplanting the mysticism of self-appointed witch doctors.
We’ll soon find out if Reynolds was merely playing a part as a wrongheaded public denier of the value of advanced metrics. It’s possible he’s dropping that whole bit as he assumes the lead analyst role for FOX, or he may be risking a real combination of discomfort and embarrassment as the technology of the game passes him by. For him to be hired by the game’s primary broadcast network just as this is happening suggests either that he’s ready to enlighten himself or somebody at FOX made a terrible mistake.
The response from some is inevitable, predictable and trite. Dumb people are afraid of knowing new things or confronting the idea that long-held beliefs are going to be objectively weighed for veracity. It’s a specious argument that the game is rendered less fun when we know more about what is actually happening. Just like that durn Copernicus with all his highfalutin book-larnin’ ruining the non-stop party that was geocentrism.
Bob Bowman is the CEO of MLB Advanced Media, and he told MLB.com that the new data merely adds more richness to how we talk about baseball.
“This is going to be pretty exciting,” he said. “We think it’s going to change the way we argue about the game, but we don’t think it’s going to settle any debates. We think it starts more.”
While he’s dead on about the last part, he’s kidding himself if he doesn’t think that all this new sunlight won’t chase some old misunderstandings scurrying out of the shadows. Harrelson, for one, is fond of prefacing baseless, grandiose opinions in a way that presents them as immutable, eternal truth.
“That’s the way it is,” he likes to say, sounding like an unsettling combination of Walter Cronkite and Paula Deen. “That’s the way it always has been, and that’s the way it always will be.”
And that’s already wrong.

I actually don't give a fuck on the route to the ball. Brian Anderson had an excellent route to the ball...he also had an excellent route out of baseball...he couldn't hit :(

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What dipshit said that About Noah? I can't listen now.

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wah wah my kids

Yeah, try going to a high school where your geography teacher pronounces Greenwich "green witch."

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