I believe this is the first time I have said this, but I wish we had a Like button. Good work in this thread CH.

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That's funny, Little Crest said you should F___ off.

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I am glad you feel that why about your child as well you should. I also have a nephew very similiar to that and I would describe him the same way. Sadly his sister has a much more severe case and falls into the "special" category.

My angst is aimed more at the relative lack of attention this issue gets in our society given the percentage of kids (and families) it is affecting.

That is pretty rude, don't you think? I thought I got along well with you and your boy.

Or did I teach him that?

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Listen to the river sing sweet songs
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Bad attempt at humor.

He did say " what the hell" the other day though.

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We're always short Special Olympic basketball coaches in my SRA. Come volunteer coach in Cal City! SO State basketball was this weekend too, maybe if we had a better coach we'd be down there.

Yes. I've never said it's vaccines only, or pesticides only, or food supply only. Could be all of them, could be a few of them, or could be none of them. Until we know for sure shouldn't we seek out those answers, and question what we do. And don't people have the right to ask those questions or protect themselves from what it could be without being considered nuts?

There are families and people that have had trouble with vaccinations. I don't see why people discount them or their experiences. I think we owe it to them and ourselves to figure out what happened and how to prevent it from happening again.

While I don't have kids and have never even given thought to this issue, it's not like the parents that decide against it are saying "I want my kids to get a sick."


I think most people who decide for it do it with no research or thought. They're told that's what you do, so they do it.

Once again, I know nothing about it other than what I've read in this thread. But I don't think parents who decide against it are evil.

Doesn't mean they've made the right decision. Just means they're doing what they think is right for their kids.

Ok fair.

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I think this turned out to be a good thread overall.

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Agreed. You're welcome.

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Naturally I believe it was my presence.

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True. You are usually wrong, but you're always interesting. Spmack says I aspire to be you on the board and it's not entirely inaccurate.

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Nice thread would be who do you want to be like or how would you emulate another poster.

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FF should set up some polls and make some crazy predictions.

How can you someone even argue with the highlighted portion of what Spaulding said?

Folks who go out of there way to ascribe ill will and malice towards families that avoid vaccinations for good reason speak volumes about themselves. When you've had a child that was permanently harmed by a vaccination, then feel free to ramble on.

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Isn't this what generally happens when someone has a very strong opinion about something?

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What would Tyson do?

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Keep in mind FavreFan was hammered last night.

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I only read the first page, I know that nobody can pin point athe cause of autism ...so you can't really "debunk" anything , until you have the specific cause...maybe vaccinations play a role...nobody really knows for sure.

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This is the troubling thing here. People are literally ignoring science here. I only skimmed this thread, but it's an unsupportable position to say that vaccines cause autism. Now, is there an incredibly small but completely unknown possibility they do? Yes. However, we can't start making decisions based on completely unsupportable ideas. The repercussions would be catastrophic if we start letting amateur doctors and scientists start deciding that the unsupportable position they have is worth considering. Today, you may link autism and vaccines. Tomorrow, I may link fruits and lung cancer because a guy I know who ate a lot of fruit got lung cancer. Someone else may link leather and heart disease.

What we know is that if we stopped all vaccines today, hundreds of people would die, and then hundreds of thousands of people would die, and eventually, millions of people would die. That seems like quite a tradeoff because someone has some weak anecdotal evidence of something that goes against virtually all evidence.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Spot on.

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Agreed. The funny thing is I kept thinking this thread has BRick written all over it.

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I think it had more to do with Chu's style of play. Sure, it was within the rules, but he played like a jag-off. He wanted to roll through categories quickly, so he was brusque in calling them out. He wanted to find Daily Doubles and he buried them with small plays if it was a weak category for him. That was certainly a winning strategy, but it isn't really the spirit of the game. Jennings won because he knew more than everyone else. Chu won because of his style of play. But he's got his $300,000. I'm sure he's not too worried about the world thinking he's a jerk.

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