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Did he bring up the college degrees thing? That's my favorite.



Who? Bernsie?

I don't think. What's that?

He remarked previously that the station has become so much smarter and better now that every on air personality owns a college degree.


Well, that's just ridiculous.



You'd have to know where each degree is from.


Most come from a copier or printing press.

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 Post subject: Re: 3/17 - Smart Station
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I am glad North is no longer on the station, but Dans so far off on his opinion of North. If transition is going to have this much tension, they just need to kill it, because that was more uncomfortable than a Bob in Niles movie review


I thought that was one of the better transitions they've had. It's just a shame that something has to be as polarizing as Mike North for anybody over there to truly have a disagreement with each other and hold their ground.


Who at The Score besides Berns has a problem with North? Most of the guys who were there when North was there are gone.
I like that it really bothers Berns that North is the reason WSCR is what it is & he just cant admit it. Fuck Berns & his ilk.


There is almost nothing North did that really affected Bernstein to the point that he should have two thoughts about North. North destroyed top billing shows like Monsters and HFC but Dan and Terry do not seem to hold ill will for Mike.

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 Post subject: Re: 3/17 - Smart Station
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Dan has expressed this ridiculous belief before.

He believes that the change in ratings was not due to the change in how they record ratings, but rather because North left and it became smart radio.


He truly believes this and that alone shows he's not nearly as bright as he thinks he is


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 Post subject: Re: 3/17 - Smart Station
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Kirkwood wrote:
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Did he bring up the college degrees thing? That's my favorite.



Who? Bernsie?

I don't think. What's that?

He remarked previously that the station has become so much smarter and better now that every on air personality owns a college degree.


That is just plain stupid. The Score needs a couple of "regular Joe" types. That should have been the purpose of the Scoresearch contests, instead they chose Gavin & Berger, Ye gads!
The Score has too many guys who are too broadcasty & announcery.

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 Post subject: Re: 3/17 - Smart Station
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but without him, there is no Score. .


They might not rise as quickly as they did, but the station survives and grows easily. He helped bring attention to the station and as ridiculous as North was, Teams in this town hated to admit it, they needed to respect the Score because people started listening. Eventually this would have happened on its own, just would have been a longer wait.

Norths plan was all about North. He didnt do anything to make the station bigger, he did everything to make Mike North bigger.

North will rise form the ashes at the Dan mcneil roast one day!


If there was no North, sports talk radio would have fit in the Coppock paradigm. The Score was fully prepared to be a station that featured nothing but establishment types who would have been happy to curry favor with the teams at the expense of the fans.

North's immediate populist popularity changed that plan. It allowed Mac to be Mac, as, at the time, he Terry was warning him to never embrace fans of the station. It allowed Jiggets to loosen up from the TV stiff that he was hired to portray. Even Terry, who was always known as a fun guy, was able to let it loose on the station, against his initial idea of a radio persona.

North was great for the station, great for the industry and ultimately great for sports in this city.

Honestly, fuck Dan Bernstein. I know Dan Bernstein. I have lived with the Dan Bernstein's of the world my entire professional career. I see right through him to the core insecurities that fuel his fear (not hate but fear) of a world of Mike Norths.

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I'd have loved North to have been around when FOTS declared he once could dunk a tennis ball, or turn around a 95mph fastball. Or when Laurence started talking up his athletic & women chasing pursuits.

Neither could have taken the ridicule that North would still be dishing out.

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The great irony in all this is that Dan is nothing more than a stupid person's idea of what "smart" is. I started listening in mid-2006, and the station is unquestionably dumber now than it was then.

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But would a daughter of Mike North request a steak for her birthday? That is a culinarily advanced child right there.


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I guess MJH kicking BandBs asses for years was becayse it was the smarter show


Although I guarantee Stain blames all those losses on Norths presence at the station. Had North left in 01, MJH would have never beaten B and B



Also, is Chicago a city of intelligent people who want thoughtful sports talk? I could swear last week Chicago was a town of imbeciles pining for a backup QB ("this coukd only happen in Chicago")


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but without him, there is no Score. .


They might not rise as quickly as they did, but the station survives and grows easily. He helped bring attention to the station and as ridiculous as North was, Teams in this town hated to admit it, they needed to respect the Score because people started listening. Eventually this would have happened on its own, just would have been a longer wait.

Norths plan was all about North. He didnt do anything to make the station bigger, he did everything to make Mike North bigger.

North will rise form the ashes at the Dan mcneil roast one day!


If there was no North, sports talk radio would have fit in the Coppock paradigm. The Score was fully prepared to be a station that featured nothing but establishment types who would have been happy to curry favor with the teams at the expense of the fans.

North's immediate populist popularity changed that plan. It allowed Mac to be Mac, as, at the time, he Terry was warning him to never embrace fans of the station. It allowed Jiggets to loosen up from the TV stiff that he was hired to portray. Even Terry, who was always known as a fun guy, was able to let it loose on the station, against his initial idea of a radio persona.

North was great for the station, great for the industry and ultimately great for sports in this city.

Honestly, fuck Dan Bernstein. I know Dan Bernstein. I have lived with the Dan Bernstein's of the world my entire professional career. I see right through him to the core insecurities that fuel his fear (not hate but fear) of a world of Mike Norths.


CAN I GET AN AMEN?!

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Update guy mentions the Tigers shortstop for whom they traded Prince Fielder's wife's boyfriend Avisail Garcia to the White Sox will be out for most of the season due to fractures in his shins. Bernstein made an actual funny, "and members of the Shins" which ended up falling flat as the update guy hadn't heard of the Shins.


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 Post subject: Re: 3/17 - Smart Station
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Gee.....who was tough guy making fun of when Drinky was reading the story about Irsay?
Bernstine has to 'mouth' somebody's name when they were talking about sliding down a hill of drinking and drugs???

It was really obvious this time.

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What a beautiful day for the boards, defending North and hating on Bernsie. I am proud of you guys. I wasn't much of a North fan, but the station was much better back in those days. It was fun and light. If I wanted smart radio, then NPR would be my choice.

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Obvious, unnecessary and surprisingly juvenile/passive aggressive.
The silence while Bernstein was mouthing DaMaNa was almost as deafening as the uncomfortable chuckles that followed.


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I hope Mac sticks around just to make Bernsie's station life uncomfortable.


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What a beautiful day for the boards, defending North and hating on Bernsie. I am proud of you guys. I wasn't much of a North fan, but the station was much better back in those days. It was fun and light. If I wanted smart radio, then NPR would be my choice.


I really soured on North at the end but I would take him in a heartbeat over Bernstein.


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I hope Mac sticks around just to make Bernsie's station life uncomfortable.


This has been the best part of the whole thing, Mac going after Bernsie from a number of angles.

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But would a daughter of Mike North request a steak for her birthday?


Sure, but only with a BJ.


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If Mac doesn't call him out for that, the fire is gone. When does Beardown start a thread?

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How will this upset Mac, though? He was pissed earlier today that no one roasted his inability to stay sober.

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Peoria Matt wrote:
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What a beautiful day for the boards, defending North and hating on Bernsie. I am proud of you guys. I wasn't much of a North fan, but the station was much better back in those days. It was fun and light. If I wanted smart radio, then NPR would be my choice.


I really soured on North at the end but I would take him in a heartbeat over Bernstein.


Let's not romanticize what North became. He was intolerable at the end. The Mike North Morning Show was as detrimental to the station as anything Bernstein has done.

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Before we get too carried away here, let's not forget that North was just as guilty of all the stuff we get on Bernstein about: creepy casual racism, disregard for listeners, circling up wagons with spineless yes-men, faithfully carrying water for team owners. That's what makes this whole thing so upsetting.

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Let's not romanticize what North became. He was intolerable at the end. The Mike North Morning Show was as detrimental to the station as anything Bernstein has done.

Exactly. How quickly people forget.

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Before we get too carried away here, let's not forget that North was just as guilty of all the stuff we get on Bernstein about: creepy casual racism, disregard for listeners, circling up wagons with spineless yes-men, faithfully carrying water for team owners. That's what makes this whole thing so upsetting.


only at the end of his run.

In his Monsters days he was asking Pat Riley to shave his head and telling Mike Mc Caskey what a weenie he is. He also had parties for listeners AT HIS HOUSE (think about that for a second).

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I hope Mac sticks around just to make Bernsie's station life uncomfortable.


I think Mac to the new WGNG or whatever is a done deal. I don't think Finfer/McKnight jump to WGNG otherwise. Mac likely
conveyed his roster requests to his future employer and they are proceeding to fill-out that roster, as tactfully as they can.


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He also had parties for listeners AT HIS HOUSE (think about that for a second).


Did they get to paint his man-cave?


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Before we get too carried away here, let's not forget that North was just as guilty of all the stuff we get on Bernstein about: creepy casual racism, disregard for listeners, circling up wagons with spineless yes-men, faithfully carrying water for team owners. That's what makes this whole thing so upsetting.


only at the end of his run.

In his Monsters days he was asking Pat Riley to shave his head and telling Mike Mc Caskey what a weenie he is. He also had parties for listeners AT HIS HOUSE (think about that for a second).


Bernstein would have to disinfect his house afterward.

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What a beautiful day for the boards, defending North and hating on Bernsie. I am proud of you guys. I wasn't much of a North fan, but the station was much better back in those days. It was fun and light. If I wanted smart radio, then NPR would be my choice.


I really soured on North at the end but I would take him in a heartbeat over Bernstein.


I agree 100%.

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Before we get too carried away here, let's not forget that North was just as guilty of all the stuff we get on Bernstein about: creepy casual racism, disregard for listeners, circling up wagons with spineless yes-men, faithfully carrying water for team owners. That's what makes this whole thing so upsetting.


only at the end of his run.

In his Monsters days he was asking Pat Riley to shave his head and telling Mike Mc Caskey what a weenie he is. He also had parties for listeners AT HIS HOUSE (think about that for a second).


I was talking about old North over current Bernstein.

Totally agree about North at the end. Absolute train wreck. I couldn't wait for him to be gone. But if I could have the "Pappy" North or Bernsie? I'm taking Pappy.

Of course, I would get sick of him after a 2 weeks and start the "Who should replace North" thread.


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