http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-measles-20140317,0,5862673.story#axzz2wG00lo2J

Please note, the doctor that started this whole thing, was stripped of his medical license because of just how improper his methods were.

Very ranty. Do you know any of this as fact, was it put out by somebody that benefits from those facts, or is it just what you think?

No, he's not the first, but jumping to a higher dollar answer is not common and considered bad form among purists. Also, he played to tie a cute broad he knew he could beat so she would come back with him the next day and he didn't risk facing a tougher opponent.

Correct about the money in vaccines. It is for that reason that they have vaccination courts in which payouts come from the Federal government. If the general public could sue vaccination companies in regular courts, they actually wouldn't even make them because vaccinations aren't profitable to begin with.

When you have a moment Brick, count the kids who died from measles, mumps or rubella last year in this country.

So, are you offering up your children for a science experiment that drug companies and the feds know injure and kill kids?

I was quoting a fact about vaccine profitability.

There are some risks with any medical procedure or treatment. Parents who don't vaccinate are making it more likely their child will die. They are making it more likely that other children will die. That isn't opinion. It's medical fact that has been proven by a wide margin. I know it sounds bad, but parents who refuse to vaccinate are making it much more likely that their children will die at an age much younger than they should. This is even more maddening as the person who is pushing it hardest, ended up being not only wrong about the vaccines, but she wasn't even right that the child had autism. Yeah, lets ignore decades of medical advice and usage and billions of dollars in research and development and more billions in training because someone who hosted Singled Out thinks something.

Now, maybe there is a small risk with vaccines even though there is no evidence besides unsubstantiated myths. You know what isn't a myth? It's what happens when you don't vaccinate. We have centuries of records as to what happens to a non-vaccinated society. It's not good.

The risks are monumentally greater for not giving people vaccines. These diseases were mass killers of people. They would be again. That is why this is so dangerous. If even 10% of the population were to stop getting vaccinated, we'd see returns of these diseases and possibly with a resistance to current vaccines.

That is not their choice. They are wrong. Go get a medical degree and then maybe you can make that decision, however, you'd get sued to the point of being penniless if you blatantly ignore actual data. If a parent thinks they are truly smarter than virtually ALL medical knowledge on this subject, then they should just opt out of the whole medical system and see how well the kid does by never seeing a doctor. The science on vaccines is better than most of the medical procedures I've had in my life and probably the same is true for you. Parents often have to choose a medical procedure where death is a small but potential outcome. However, we are worried about some completely unsubstantiated medical myths?

This whole trend is incredibly troubling. Parents at parties all pretending like they know more than the ENTIRE medical field which has, even with a lot of trying, never been able to find any link to autism from vaccines.

I think any parent who doesn't want to vaccinate should have to sign a document claiming they are denying all medical care for their child. After all, if you can't trust something that literally has NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE then you really don't want to take a chance with medical procedures and treatments which do have known side effects and are applied with the concept that you have to play the percentages even with some risks. I'm just glad my parents didn't hold off on a surgery for me as a baby because they were afraid of the potential but highly unlikely side effects. Hopefully other parents who refuse to vaccinate don't one day regret it.

The concept of people straying from the mainstream has and will always be frightening to some.

I was quoting a fact about vaccine profitability.

Correct about the money in vaccines. It is for that reason that they have vaccination courts in which payouts come from the Federal government. If the general public could sue vaccination companies in regular courts, they actually wouldn't even make them because vaccinations aren't profitable to begin with.

That comment makes no sense BRick. None. It's a pile of something that you are trying to use to prop up a debatable point.

Our country far exceeds others in emergency medical care. Stitches and broken bones are a far cry from pumping thimerasol into a child's bloodstream without telling the parents.

True. But Seacrest and Spaulding have some credibility. Panther thinks everything is a conspiracy, so it's hard to take him seriously.