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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:29 am

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I'm not really troubled by his money. It is a little uncomfortable this year but much more acceptable afterwards (the anti Renisdorf contract).

I would have been very comfortable letting him walk, signing MicNoon at a friendly contract and drafting one of the top guys this year, then having a boatload of cash for FA after losing Jay and Peppers. Still Jay is OK in my book

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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:49 pm

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NFL on ESPN ‏@ESPNNFL 1m
JUST IN: Two-time Pro Bowl CB Charles Tillman agrees to 1-year deal with the Bears.

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Hank Scorpio

Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:53 pm

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Bucky Chris wrote:

NFL on ESPN ‏@ESPNNFL 1m
JUST IN: Two-time Pro Bowl CB Charles Tillman agrees to 1-year deal with the Bears.

I bet he really thought he was going to get a longer deal with Tampa.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:53 pm

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Bucky Chris wrote:

NFL on ESPN ‏@ESPNNFL 1m
JUST IN: Two-time Pro Bowl CB Charles Tillman agrees to 1-year deal with the Bears.

Great! I would not play him in ANY exhibition games. He doesn't need it.

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Bucky Chris

Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:54 pm

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Hank Scorpio wrote:

Bucky Chris wrote:

NFL on ESPN ‏@ESPNNFL 1m
JUST IN: Two-time Pro Bowl CB Charles Tillman agrees to 1-year deal with the Bears.

I bet he really thought he was going to get a longer deal with Tampa.

For sure. I did too, though. Thought either way he would get a 2 year deal whether it was Tampa or Chi.

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Bucky Chris

Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:00 pm

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Great price:

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl 2m
Charles Tillman's one-year deal with the #Bears is worth just under $3.5 m, per source.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:09 pm

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Bucky Chris wrote:

Great price:

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl 2m
Charles Tillman's one-year deal with the #Bears is worth just under $3.5 m, per source.

Sweet.

I wouldn't be surprised if he stayed here even with a 2-year offer from TB. He's pretty entrenched in this community and I think he plans to continue post-NFL career.

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Spaulding

Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:12 pm

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veganfan21 wrote:

Cutler is paid standard money for a qb at his age, and with his skills. Not higher than the elite groups (total package, not yearly), and probably just below similarly talented backs who have rings. It's not a reflection on Cutler, it's just the standard rate for what he brings. Whatever.

This is what drives me crazy. It shouldn't be the standard. I'm not sure if another team would have given him what the bears did.

Good about nutty.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:13 pm

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Bucky Chris wrote:

NFL on ESPN ‏@ESPNNFL 1m
JUST IN: Two-time Pro Bowl CB Charles Tillman agrees to 1-year deal with the Bears.

Glad to have Peanut back. He might not be an every down player anymore, but at $3.5 Million it is worth keeping him around.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:14 pm

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Spaulding wrote:

veganfan21 wrote:

This is what drives me crazy. It shouldn't be the standard. I'm not sure if another team would have given him what the bears did.

Good about nutty.

No other NFL team would have given Cutler a $125 Million contract. The Bears got fleeced.

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Spaulding

Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:18 pm

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That's how I feel too. I resent cutler a little now, I still hold out some hope though.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:56 am

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Scorehead wrote:

No other NFL team would have given Cutler a $125 Million contract. The Bears got fleeced.

False.

And not all that is guaranteed so....

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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:01 am

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veganfan21 wrote:

Cutler is paid standard money for a qb at his age, and with his skills.

Let's run those numbers again with production rather than perceived "skills".

I guess the Texans are stupid for not realizing what they have in Matt Schaub.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:04 am

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

veganfan21 wrote:

Cutler is paid standard money for a qb at his age, and with his skills.

Let's run those numbers again with production rather than perceived "skills".

I guess the Texans are stupid for not realizing what they have in Matt Schaub.

Like I said previously, it's not an accurate reflection of his talent, skills, production, etc. He would have gotten that money elsewhere because, for whatever reason, GMs will be drawn more to him than to someone like Schaub.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:10 am

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veganfan21 wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

veganfan21 wrote:

Cutler is paid standard money for a qb at his age, and with his skills.

Let's run those numbers again with production rather than perceived "skills".

I guess the Texans are stupid for not realizing what they have in Matt Schaub.

I just disagree it is standard money. I think the perception of Jay Cutler puts him closer to Matt Schaub than it is the people he is compared to like Romo or Flacco.

There probably would have been a stupid team that would have paid him similar though. It only takes one.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:14 am

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

veganfan21 wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

veganfan21 wrote:

Cutler is paid standard money for a qb at his age, and with his skills.

Let's run those numbers again with production rather than perceived "skills".

I guess the Texans are stupid for not realizing what they have in Matt Schaub.

I think it is standard money for the same reason people gamble and draft players like JeMarcus Russell in the first round: raw ability and talent. GMs fixate on the ability and think "what if." Teams like Jacksonville, Arizona, Cleveland, NYJ, etc., would have paid money for someone like Cutler, unless they decided it couldn't work scheme wise, or if they preferred to go younger.

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Brick

Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:27 am

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Arizona and Cleveland I think would be possibilities. I guess we'll never really know. It will be interesting to see what happens with Schaub. Schaub and Cutler aren't that far apart no matter how many teams think they can "change Cutler".

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Bucky Chris

Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:07 pm

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Jeff Dickerson ‏@ESPNChiBears
DE Israel Idonije set to visit Bears http://es.pn/1ecrdYo

I think it's a good depth move if it's for the vet min.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:16 pm

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Schaub has been a better QB. It's a perception vs reality thing. If Cutler ever consistently plays up to his talent it will be worth it.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:58 am

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@ESPNChiBears: Filed to http://t.co/mnFHigRV1y: #Bears ask KR/WR Eric Weems to take pay cut. Will be released if he declines, per sources.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:08 am

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Quote:

CHICAGO -- The left shoulder injury that knocked Bears linebacker Lance Briggs out of seven games last season will force the seven-time Pro Bowl selection to wear a harness under his shoulder pads next season.

Briggs told ESPN 1000's "Carmen and Jurko Show" on Monday that he is still recovering from the fractured shoulder he suffered while attempting to make a tackle in the Bears' 45-41 loss to the Washington Redskins on Oct. 20.

Bears need to sign another cheap vet and draft a replacement. I think there's very little chance he doesn't miss games or is as impactful as he's previously been.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:11 am

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Yeah, their LB situation could get ugly real quick once again.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:48 am

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Bucky Chris wrote:

@ESPNChiBears: Filed to http://t.co/mnFHigRV1y: #Bears ask KR/WR Eric Weems to take pay cut. Will be released if he declines, per sources.

He is the best in the league at being a shithead after the whistle. You have to pay the man.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:15 pm

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Bears Insider ‏@bears_insider 2m
Per PFT, the Bears have agreed to terms to bring back DE Israel Idonije.

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Bucky Chris

Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:44 pm

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Jeff Dickerson ‏@ESPNChiBears
Filed to http://ESPNChicago.com : #Bears WR Earl Bennett declines pay cut and is expected to be released, per sources.

Wilson is the man, I guess. Saves the Bears 2.45m in cap space.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:46 pm

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Interesting. So Bennett refuses to take a pay cut but welcomed a weekly pay cut for his stupid ass orange shoes.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:22 pm

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The team has divested itself of all players from Angelo's beloved Vanderbilt, except the most expensive player in the league

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Kirkwood

Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:59 pm

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Deep receiver class this year. I imagine Emery grabs one in the mid-rounds. No way Emery can think Marshall, Jeffrey and Bennett play all 16. Unless he's banking on Wilson? That'd fit his gambling ballsy persona.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:00 pm

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Kirkwood wrote:

I think we signed a guy who will play some WR as well. Hixon?

There are other needs to address in draft. I do not expect or want them using a pick on a WR unless it is the last couple rounds.

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Bucky Chris

Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:10 pm

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I'm with you. I want them to draft all defense except maybe a TE or QB. Hixon and Wilson can compete for the 3rd spot, and Weems as well if he takes the cut. They still have Terrance Tolliver and the CFL guy Chris Williams too.

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