He needs to go.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

He shouldn't have been hired.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Eh, who cares... Sox are more than a manager away from contending. Just as long as he doesn't Dusty Baker the pitchers, I don't really care.

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"All crowds boycotting football games shouldn't care who sings or takes a knee because they aren't watching." - Nas

Weren't they going to make the playoffs until the last week or so of the season during his first year?

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Weren't they going to make the playoffs until the first pitch of this season?

Probably not but if I recall correctly they were exceeding expectations in his first year until they collapsed near the end. I thought it was an auspicious start to his managerial career but I guess not.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

what did he do tonight?

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

....but he lights up a room when he enters it.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

he has to be among a select few in MLB history to ink a contract extension after a season of losing 99 games

you mean when he leaves it

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

and the jump from California High School part time roving instructor to MLB manager, might also be a select club.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

They were saying last night that the Rockies manager was a former player and was a high school coach with no professional coaching experience prior to being hired.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

This seems to bother you very much. How jealous are you of Robin Ventura and other Reinsdorf employees?

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Very jealous and it bothers me very much. I was kinda hoping I would get the job. Thought my 2 years of Tee ball coaching, combined with limited play in the minors (or as Leary would say, DePaul club ball) would at least get me an interview.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Seems to be a trend...

WW was in Rockies front office for 9 years scouting. Was maybe going to be next GM, but when his kid made HS team he went to help him. Then came back to Rockies.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

So you agree that he had no professional coaching experience.

Good talk, Russ.

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3 minutes to chase my posts, you are slipping.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Easy there Rozner.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Just so I am clear on this one....

You start the thread that says FIRE VENTURA and then go on to provide support for him?

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Where was I supporting him?

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Bump. Allowed a foul ball to be called a HR. Not sure Robin knows there's a replay/challenge system instituted now.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

That's a big problem with replay. Is the goal to get the calls right or to set up an arbitrary system to get the calls right occasionally depending on a manager's decision? Before the umpires made the calls and that was that. They were right or wrong, but they did their best and everybody lived within the same paradigm. Now, sometimes calls are overturned (correctly or incorrectly), sometimes they go unchallenged, and it's just like officiating roulette. Just trust the umps to get it right most of the time. Here's a case where they didn't and replay didn't help.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I'm not even a Sox fan and I'm kinda ticked at how Ventura fucked up tonight. Should have left Sale finish 8th.

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Did you think that before Petricka gave up the runs or after?

I thought it before. Sale was getting up there in pitches, yes, but unless Sale gets into the ASG, he's probably not pitching again for 8-9 days.

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Ok. It didn't even enter my mind to leave him in because I didn't think even this awful bullpen could give up 5 runs before they got 4 outs.

I don't think it's a matter of the ASG coming up. It's not Venturas fault they lost this game, even though he does suck. Petricka has been pitching really well. There was no reason to feel worry giving him the ball with a 4 run, 4 out lead.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Its the situation. The guy hit an infield single, and only got to 2nd because Alexei didn't feel like he needed to cover the bag. You have one of (if not the) best pitcher in the AL on the mound, pitching a shutout, 2 outs with a runner on 3rd in the 8th inning. Have Petricka (Putnam, whoever) ready to go and if Sale gives up that run you yank him. He should have been left in to try and get that final out of the 8th for one more batter. Going into the 9th inning up 4-0 or 4-1 looks a lot better.

Also as I pointed out in the other thread, Viciedo was thrown out at 2nd and DeAza at home last night. More bad baserunning, which also falls squarely on Ventura.

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shit's gonna happen when you got a bunch of scrubs in the bullpen.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest