It is a tough thing, but if the administration knows something is going on and they do nothing about it, should they be held responsible?

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They politely ask if they can shoot you before doing so.

That's a tough question. It depends on how long they were aware of an issue and what they did about it. Most of time the bullying was going on for a long period of time and teachers and the administration were aware of it and no steps were taken to put an end to it. I try to teach my kids to not participate in situations like that. It's easy for a kid to join in on the bullying because it make them feel like they are apart of the "in" crowd.

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Regardless of where you fall on gun control, I don’t understand why it's hard to admit that guns are more dangerous than knives or any other common type of weapon. Of course a gun makes it easier to kill a bunch of people fast than a knife does. Admitting this doesn't mean that you are in favor of gun control.

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OK. Guns are more dangerous than knives. You can kill a lot more people with castor beans than you can an ak47 though. I don't understand the relevance of the more dangerous game.

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It's not a means to any end. That doesn't mean we should ignore reality. To say that a gun doesn't make it easier for a murderer to carry out a murder is patently false. We must agree on certain facts before any discussion can even take place.

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Mental illness is a major problem? Murdering innocent people and kids is bad?

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Huh?

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I was trying to find at least a couple of facts that we all can agree on. How did I do?

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I think our federal government would take issue with your second question.

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Yes we agree on those. I thought you were doing a biggie impression.

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He said murdering innocent people, not Muslims.

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I think our government would have an issue if we could eliminate all murders.

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There's probably no less than 10 posters here that would read that and think you're making a valid point.

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People don't pay enough attention to their kids, deny the obvious, can't deal, or think their kids are great.

It's not false. It's easy to murder with or without a gun. I don't believe for a second that a gun makes it easier at all.

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So if I go into a room of 20 people capable of fighting back, I could just as easily kill all 20 with a knife as I could with a gun?

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Of course a gun makes it easier to kill people. That's the main reason they are used for self defense.

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Makes more of an impact, and I think it is easier with a gun.

Oh were just comparing knives to guns? Come to think of it a couple guys with knives killed 3000 or more on 9/11

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The question is whether a gun makes it easier to kill people. It's not a question of whether it's possible to kill people in other ways. If I up and decided to go kill my neighbor right now in a fit of rage, a gun would make it much easier than any other items I possess, correct?

Again, I'm not even commenting on gun control. I'm just trying to agree on facts.

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I think it would be just as easy to stab a guy in the throat as it would be to shoot him. I guess it's the movies that do this to us but a gunshot isn't a sure kill.
It's easier to kill a room full of people with a pipe bomb than a gun. It's easier with a gun than a knife.
I guess I don't see what your point is.

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It's a lot easier to operate a gun than it is to make a pipe bomb. It's also a lot easier to kill someone who is capable of fighting back with a gun than a pipe bomb or knife.

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I would disagree. I can make a pipe bomb with parts from any hardware store. Can't just run out and obtain a gun. You can just run out and make a pipe bomb.
Secondly, whats the point of what's easier? A motivated person can commit mass murder with any manner or weaponry. Ever take an improvised weapons class?
What difference does it make what's easiest? Seems like a real strawman to me

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This argument keeps evolving I've noticed too. First it's easier to commit murder with a gun. That's not necessarily true so then it becomes it's easier to murder a room full of people. But that's not exactly true then it becomes it's easier to murder people capable of fighting back, ie armed people.
Look if you're willing to murder a bunch of people you're gonna get it done with what you can. A bomb a poison a gun a knife whatever. Easy isn't really the problem here. It's why is someone so willing to murder a bunch of people not what tool will he use.

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