Aaron Sanchez - Blew Jays

The Scouting Report: Sanchez, a California native, has the best stuff in the Jays’ system. His fastball sits in the mid-90s and he backs it up with a plus curveball. He doesn’t use his changeup a ton but the right-hander throws it with deceptive arm speed and it flashes good fade. Tall and lean, Sanchez’s delivery was tweaked in 2013 and — as ESPN prospect evaluator Keith Law pointed out — the prospect now lands on a stiff front leg with little follow through. The delivery makes it more difficult for the young hurler to get the ball down in the lower half of the zone on a consistent basis.

The Year Ahead: The strong fall showing should allow Sanchez to open 2014 in Double-A. If he can add the necessary polish, Sanchez could reach the Majors by the end of the season. However, he probably isn’t ready to realize his ceiling and will likely struggle with his inconsistencies at the big league level. Toronto is in the market for established starting pitching and Sanchez is the organization’s best trading chip.

The Career Outlook: Sanchez has the makings of a No. 1 or 2 starter, if his command and control both improve. However, I have concerns over his ability to stay healthy in the long term, and he’s already had shoulder issues pop up.
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This is the primary guy, Cubs looking at others.

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Don't like it.

I want them to want Dylan Bundy for him.

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The Cubs are gonna trade Samardjiza for a prospect and then hope that guy turns out to be as good as Samardjiza.

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I have no desire to deal with Toronto. Have any of the guys they have traded away in the past produced? I thought they traded a stud catcher to the mets and i don't even know if he is on the major league roster yet. He is but he hasn't done shit for them yet.

2 mlb ready players 1 being a starting pitcher or just resign him.

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Yeah...I would think there would have to be a few other prospects in there too if this was the guy they wanted.

How about, the Cubs are going to trade for a guy that they think will be better than Jeff Samardjiza thinks he is.

Samardjiza is playing as good as he ever as and as good as he might ever.

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Shoulder issues...no thank you. Shark is proving his high opinion of himself and justifying his homer bailey demands.

Shark got off to almost the same start last year and sucked by years end. How about he proves that he's even a number 3 for a full season before you pay him. Im not giving him 5 -6 yrs 100-110 million period. Id just as soon trade him.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Its a difficult thing to get a near ready for MLB SP unless what you're trading for him is MUCH better (like Cliff Lee, Sabathia, at the times of their trades)


Id keep Samardzija only because I can't see getting proper value for him



Sign Shark and Wood and you have half a decent rotation guarenteed for 4 years

How can you keep him for the money he's going to want? He's going to want Homer Bailey money. No way Im giving a marginal 3rd starter 5yrs / 100 plus million. Reminds of the Bears not paying Bernard Berrian which was the correct move even though they didn't really have anyone else to replace him at the time. You just cant over pay him just because.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

I didn't say give him anything he wants. If he pitches like an ace all year I'd come close, if not he's not getting that money from anyone

5/75 if he pitches well all year

The problem is he is not an ace and most likely will not pitch like on for the whole year. You are taking a chance that he will pitch like an ace for this year and also 5 more years.

NO THANKS! Trade him for what you can get before he reverts back to the Shark we all know he is.

Trade him. Sign Scherezer and Price.

I agree. This is a trade Jedstein can't mess up and must do their homework on. If not you'll be stuck with a Cliff Lee haul of garbage like the Indians and Mariners got or Indians with CC.

12 mill is about average for a decent #2-#3 starter

He wants $18M/yr.

There's more to it than that. Sam whatever us older. He cannot come to terms on a contract extension with the cubs. Therefore if they'd have to overpay to keep him it makes sense to get something for him since they won't give him an overvalued extension.

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Not really looking for someone who's already had shoulder issues.

This organization has not proven anything to me as far as pitcher development. I would prefer to keep a known commodity unless I am getting multiple almost known commodities back. Not every decent MLB starting pitcher is a first round pick so I would like to see these guys develop some of the arms they have in the system before I trust them to trade away the shark.

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Im fine keeping him at a reasonable number. Problem is he wants more than a reasonable number.

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Correct ... that's really all there is to it.

Reasonable number? Lovely.

Not reasonable? Go fuck yourself with a cactus.

I get the impression that no small percentage of the people that think they should "just pay him" whatever are the same people that would assign skin-flint status to the owners ... which is hilarious because even if that were true (it will be proven false in time), if they made a huge exception for this somewhat mediocre cat, why in God's name would they then start throwing more money around to others?

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Scattering 6 hits over 7 innings is fine as well.

Sammy is a 4-5 hits in an inning, Many times last year the 1st inning, then he strikes out 10 as well. It's just #1 mental stuff.

To his credit this year, to date, he has been a legit #1, best pitcher in Chicago?

A number I like to look at for starters is the BAA, and I think Sammy ended up out of the top 50 last year.

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A number I like to look at for starters is wins and Sammy had all of 8 to go along with a sparkling 4.3 ERA last year. Again what he's doing now is mirroring what he did last year at the start. Im more interested in how he's going to handle July August September this year . Even then Im not writing him the check he wants . He thinks he's better than he is.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

He's not getting that.

Which is why I proposed the more realistic 15 per

Even if you believe Wins are good stat, there is no denying that the other peripheral numbers are much better at projecting the future.

Especially pitching for a terrible team like the Cubs.

True to some degree, but also the reason people kept given big money to guys like Javy Vazquez and Edwin Jackson.

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Its especially misleading to look at Samardzija's wins. The Cubs have been 28th in runs the last two years.

It may be misleading and it may not. He could be Dave Stewart or Red Ruffing, but I'd say it's more likely that he's A.J. Burnett at best.

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