spanky wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
spanky wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
"Run support" is just another name for somebody else's ERA.
No
What do you mean, "no"? Of course it is.
Except that "run support" comes off of multiple pitchers and the runs can be un-earned and.......
The fact that "our hero" (the great but unlucky pitcher whose team does not support him) happens to derive "run support" from the errors of fielders on the opposing team is hardly ammunition against my basic argument, but of course I will concede the factual correctness of that portion of your statement.
As far as the "run support" coming off multiple pitchers is concerned, well yeah, and all of those pitchers aren't Pedro Martinez. It should be evident that if Chris Sale faces Felix Hernandez and Sale is awarded the loss and Hernandez the win, that Hernandez received more "run support" than Sale. But that's really just another way of saying Hernandez pitched better in that game than Sale did. Teams don't face the likes of Hernandez (or Sale) every single day. There are a lot more Klubers and Saunders and Paulinos out there. And if you're consistently ending up on the losing side against that aggregation, maybe you aren't really as great as people are saying you are.
The other answer might be that your offense is so bad that it is handicapping you to some great degree, but in the vast majority of cases, a simple examination of the run scoring done by the vast majority of teams will illustrate that in the vast majority of instances a great disparity does not exit. In fact, in most games the difference is a fraction of a run. Are we saying that Great Pitcher A cannot allow a single run less than Mediocre Pitcher B when the difference between their respective teams' average offense per game is less than a full run?