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Bucky Chris
 Post subject: Re: Donald Sterling
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@CNBC: BREAKING: Donald Sterling has been suspended indefinitely and fined $5M, according to a senior NBA official. (via @NBCNews)
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I thought the max fine was $1.5M?

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I thought the max fine was $1.5M?


That is what I read and was pretty clear? Multiple offenses?

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Unfortunate and on the wrong side of history.

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I will advise the Board to force the sale
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Give the 2.5 million to the NAACP, they usually exercise good judgement.

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That seems fine but I am not a fan of forcing a sale of the team.

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That seems fine but I am not a fan of forcing a sale of the team.

Its pretty Harsh. I didnt think Silver would go this hard.


Id think the other owners would be firmly against the forced sale
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:lol: :lol: Can you be a slumlord when you don't rent to the people that you think would turn your property into a slum?

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:lol: :lol: Can you be a slumlord when you don't rent to the people that you think would turn your property into a slum?


My understanding is some of these properties were in upscale neighborhoods and cost thousands monthly.

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:lol: :lol: Can you be a slumlord when you don't rent to the people that you think would turn your property into a slum?


My understanding is some of these properties were in upscale neighborhoods and cost thousands monthly.

Lisa Guerrero ( Inside Edition) called him a slumlord.

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Nas wrote:
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That seems fine but I am not a fan of forcing a sale of the team.

Its pretty Harsh. I didnt think Silver would go this hard.


Id think the other owners would be firmly against the forced sale


I think it is excessive too. IMO his past actions were worse than his words.

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:lol: :lol: Can you be a slumlord when you don't rent to the people that you think would turn your property into a slum?


My understanding is some of these properties were in upscale neighborhoods and cost thousands monthly.

Lisa Guerrero ( Inside Edition) called him a slumlord.


I still would.

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He'll be dead soon. Why doesn't it apply to his wife.

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Do you think this committee will actually force the sale? He said recommend right? If he is ousted for life why can't a kid or trustee run it?

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Do you think this committee will actually force the sale? He said recommend right? If he is ousted for life why can't a kid or trustee run it?


It's excessive for PR reasons.

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Do you think this committee will actually force the sale? He said recommend right? If he is ousted for life why can't a kid or trustee run it?

Because this is an elaborate scheme to get the Guggenheims to drop ridiculous money on a team and jack up everyone else's franchise values.

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hiram wrote:
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yes offensive words but as mr cuban said its a slippery slope.
punishment is excessive.


This is not the judicial system. This is the NBA. Having an outed racist owner would be/is a huge problem for the league. The punishment fits the problem.
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
hiram wrote:
private comments recorded illegally.
yes offensive words but as mr cuban said its a slippery slope.
punishment is excessive.


This is not the judicial system. This is the NBA. Having an outed racist owner would be/is a huge problem for the league. The punishment fits the problem.



The lifetime ban yes. The forced sale and tax consequences and so on to people other than he is a reach.

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hiram wrote:
private comments recorded illegally.
yes offensive words but as mr cuban said its a slippery slope.
punishment is excessive.

Make up call for NBA doing nothing about the LEGAL housing discrimination charges.

Agree about the slippery slope though.
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
hiram wrote:
private comments recorded illegally.
yes offensive words but as mr cuban said its a slippery slope.
punishment is excessive.


This is not the judicial system. This is the NBA. Having an outed racist owner would be/is a huge problem for the league. The punishment fits the problem.



The lifetime ban yes. The forced sale and tax consequences and so on to people other than he is a reach.


Agreed. He did that to save the league.

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hiram wrote:
private comments recorded illegally.
yes offensive words but as mr cuban said its a slippery slope.
punishment is excessive.


This is not the judicial system. This is the NBA. Having an outed racist owner would be/is a huge problem for the league. The punishment fits the problem.

Think they'd be doing the same thing if it were Michael or Magic caught on tape with racially charged opinions? ( i know there is a body of work with Sterling too thats probably playing into it) . Ban them for life, force them to sell? would the NBA players stage protests over those comments?

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pittmike wrote:
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hiram wrote:
private comments recorded illegally.
yes offensive words but as mr cuban said its a slippery slope.
punishment is excessive.


This is not the judicial system. This is the NBA. Having an outed racist owner would be/is a huge problem for the league. The punishment fits the problem.



The lifetime ban yes. The forced sale and tax consequences and so on to people other than he is a reach.


Depends on how much money you think he cost the league. And how much you think his family name will cost the league.

If the league wanted to, they could just terminate the franchise and then re-establish a "new" one in LA. The Sterling's wouldn't get shit. They are doing him a favor by having him sell it.
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badrogue17 wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
hiram wrote:
private comments recorded illegally.
yes offensive words but as mr cuban said its a slippery slope.
punishment is excessive.


This is not the judicial system. This is the NBA. Having an outed racist owner would be/is a huge problem for the league. The punishment fits the problem.

Think they'd be doing the same thing if it were Michael or Magic caught on tape with racially charged opinions? ( i know there is a body of work with Sterling too thats probably playing into it) . Ban them for life, force them to sell? would the NBA players stage protests over those comments?

You cant make that comparison though because of the body of work.

But if Magic was caught on tape saying dont bring white people to my games, Im not sure what other reaction they can have.

That's the issue. It soooo clearly in the wrong. He didnt say types of people, he didnt say my opinion...he said "Do not bring this specific type of person to the business I run"


If you wanted to say something sure to get you in trouble, you'd say it that way.
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Carcetti was like Obama. Great ideas....fails to apply em.
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Do you think this committee will actually force the sale? He said recommend right? If he is ousted for life why can't a kid or trustee run it?

Because this is an elaborate scheme to get the Guggenheims to drop ridiculous money on a team and jack up everyone else's franchise values.


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There is no way the owners agree to a forced sale unless they know a prospective owner will pay at or above market. A below market sale hurts all of them.

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