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I thought Sir did a nice job of helping them wrap things up.

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they read an email last night. really quickly and both said "well said" afterwards. It was regarding the double standard. The emailer said that double standards HAVE to exist because of how minorities have been treated. I don't usually get infuriated at listening but i was then. I have no problem creating opportunities for minorities and trying to do right in some ways by them even though neither they nor I lived in a time where they were truly oppressed. but thats not a free pass for them to be as openly racist as well. What kind of thinking is that? the real reason there HAS to be a double standard is because the same people that get on their soapbox anytime a member of the white race says something racist are terrified of the ramifications if they did the same thing to a person of minority. deadspin danny and boers both played dumb regarding jesse jackson.


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they read an email last night. really quickly and both said "well said" afterwards. It was regarding the double standard. The emailer said that double standards HAVE to exist because of how minorities have been treated. I don't usually get infuriated at listening but i was then. I have no problem creating opportunities for minorities and trying to do right in some ways by them even though neither they nor I lived in a time where they were truly oppressed. but thats not a free pass for them to be as openly racist as well. What kind of thinking is that? the real reason there HAS to be a double standard is because the same people that get on their soapbox anytime a member of the white race says something racist are terrified of the ramifications if they did the same thing to a person of minority. deadspin danny and boers both played dumb regarding jesse jackson.


That isn't racism though. Racism is the belief that one race is inherently superior to another. Ironically, B&b's oft-repeated contention that blacks are superior athletes to whites is racism. I've said time and time again, it's virtually impossible for a black man to be a racist within greater American society. He's just not coming from a place of power. That's what's interesting about this thing happening in the NBA. The NBA itself is a micro-society that displays one of the few examples of actual black racism you can find in this country as evidenced by Isiah Thomas disparaging the abilities of white players (if you don't think that's a league-wide viewpoint, you're crazy) and by Larry Bird himself stating he was offended by being guarded by another white player (an example of how racism is so insidious it becomes accepted by its victims). It's a league where the power definitely lies with blacks. At least on the court. That may be why there is such outcry over this old fool Sterling and why someone like Larry Johnson is so outraged. It was a reminder that even in the NBA where blacks appear to hold a lot of power, they really don't.

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Jason Whitlock on M&H this morning. Essentially said Sterling got railroaded and secret conversations should not be used for these purposes. Predicts it will open a big can of worms for players.


I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there are a lot of homophobic and misogynistic comments thrown around all locker rooms that people wouldn't want made public.


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Jason Whitlock on M&H this morning. Essentially said Sterling got railroaded and secret conversations should not be used for these purposes. Predicts it will open a big can of worms for players.


I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there are a lot of homophobic and misogynistic comments thrown around all locker rooms that people wouldn't want made public.


You can hear plenty of homophobic and misogynistic comments on the Score between 1 and 6 each day. At least you could before they "evolved".

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I haven't read the thread yet, so I'm not sure if anyone shares my sentiment. But yesterday's show was phenomenal. One of the best ones in a while. The callers were special. There was a threat. Lots of funny stuff from Mattabatta. Reminded me why I liked the show so much in the past...

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I haven't read the thread yet, so I'm not sure if anyone shares my sentiment....


I am in 100% agreement with you that their is nothing disloyal about someone providing a person a wonderful place to live and socialize through no effort of her own with that person then using the created position of trust to destroy her patron.

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they read an email last night. really quickly and both said "well said" afterwards. It was regarding the double standard. The emailer said that double standards HAVE to exist because of how minorities have been treated. I don't usually get infuriated at listening but i was then. I have no problem creating opportunities for minorities and trying to do right in some ways by them even though neither they nor I lived in a time where they were truly oppressed. but thats not a free pass for them to be as openly racist as well. What kind of thinking is that? the real reason there HAS to be a double standard is because the same people that get on their soapbox anytime a member of the white race says something racist are terrified of the ramifications if they did the same thing to a person of minority. deadspin danny and boers both played dumb regarding jesse jackson.


That isn't racism though. Racism is the belief that one race is inherently superior to another. Ironically, B&b's oft-repeated contention that blacks are superior athletes to whites is racism. I've said time and time again, it's virtually impossible for a black man to be a racist within greater American society. He's just not coming from a place of power. That's what's interesting about this thing happening in the NBA. The NBA itself is a micro-society that displays one of the few examples of actual black racism you can find in this country as evidenced by Isiah Thomas disparaging the abilities of white players (if you don't think that's a league-wide viewpoint, you're crazy) and by Larry Bird himself stating he was offended by being guarded by another white player (an example of how racism is so insidious it becomes accepted by its victims). It's a league where the power definitely lies with blacks. At least on the court. That may be why there is such outcry over this old fool Sterling and why someone like Larry Johnson is so outraged. It was a reminder that even in the NBA where blacks appear to hold a lot of power, they really don't.


you are preaching to the choir. i'm using the todays accepted definition of racism and should of put quotes around its use. . essentially danny calling people racist is just as nonsensical as people clamoring on and on about the 1st amendment.


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they read an email last night. really quickly and both said "well said" afterwards. It was regarding the double standard. The emailer said that double standards HAVE to exist because of how minorities have been treated. I don't usually get infuriated at listening but i was then. I have no problem creating opportunities for minorities and trying to do right in some ways by them even though neither they nor I lived in a time where they were truly oppressed. but thats not a free pass for them to be as openly racist as well. What kind of thinking is that? the real reason there HAS to be a double standard is because the same people that get on their soapbox anytime a member of the white race says something racist are terrified of the ramifications if they did the same thing to a person of minority. deadspin danny and boers both played dumb regarding jesse jackson.


That isn't racism though. Racism is the belief that one race is inherently superior to another. Ironically, B&b's oft-repeated contention that blacks are superior athletes to whites is racism. I've said time and time again, it's virtually impossible for a black man to be a racist within greater American society. He's just not coming from a place of power. That's what's interesting about this thing happening in the NBA. The NBA itself is a micro-society that displays one of the few examples of actual black racism you can find in this country as evidenced by Isiah Thomas disparaging the abilities of white players (if you don't think that's a league-wide viewpoint, you're crazy) and by Larry Bird himself stating he was offended by being guarded by another white player (an example of how racism is so insidious it becomes accepted by its victims). It's a league where the power definitely lies with blacks. At least on the court. That may be why there is such outcry over this old fool Sterling and why someone like Larry Johnson is so outraged. It was a reminder that even in the NBA where blacks appear to hold a lot of power, they really don't.



It would be more fitting in light of recent news stories to posit the exact opposite theory.

Silver was Stern's right hand man for a number of years, knowing full well who and what Donald Sterling was. He had to act because players were talking about a total boycott until he acted definitively yesterday. The talk of players boycotting is what finally forced the NBA owners to do what they did. No players. no league.

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just listened to that 10 minute clip of bomani jones killing it. i wish he'd of mentioned the free agents and coach that signed.


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Jason Whitlock on M&H this morning. Essentially said Sterling got railroaded and secret conversations should not be used for these purposes. Predicts it will open a big can of worms for players.


Scumbag Sterling might just win his counter suit against the NBA. Then things will get hairy. (By Cracky).

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Fact is, Bernstine wastes an opportunity to educate real damn racists they're wrong.


But this is the same as discussing abortion or religion. Its a waste of time & no one is going to change another persons mind & you certainly have no chance of changing ones mind by yelling, screaming & demeaning them. It's just a foolish waste of time...& very very bad radio.

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just listened to that 10 minute clip of bomani jones killing it. i wish he'd of mentioned the free agents and coach that signed.

Yep these guys are acting like they were babes in the woods with Sterling who already had both a rumoured and documented history of bigotry but hey as long as the checks didn't bounce it's all good. Now they're outraged and aren't going to play unless something was done. :roll:

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just listened to that 10 minute clip of bomani jones killing it. i wish he'd of mentioned the free agents and coach that signed.

Yep these guys are acting like they were babes in the woods with Sterling who already had both a rumoured and documented history of bigotry but hey as long as the checks didn't bounce it's all good. Now they're outraged and aren't going to play unless something was done. :roll:

IMO, allegations of racism that are probably true is not the same thing as confirmed racism specific to the job (dont bring Blacks to my game)


If there was no draft and kids out of college were free agents, most of them wouldnt have signed with The Clippers.

I guess my point is, everyone has some wrong things in their job that they put up with. This was just too much to look past.


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just listened to that 10 minute clip of bomani jones killing it. i wish he'd of mentioned the free agents and coach that signed.

Yep these guys are acting like they were babes in the woods with Sterling who already had both a rumoured and documented history of bigotry but hey as long as the checks didn't bounce it's all good. Now they're outraged and aren't going to play unless something was done. :roll:


People stepping up and refusing to play is nothing to look down at.

It showed a commitment across a number of teams where they put aside their own wishes for a greater good. That should be commended even if it was late.

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Players didn't want to sign here for years because of Jerry Krause who never had a hint of impropriety regarding race but OMG MJeff didnt like him and that was enough for players to avoid the Bulls. Everyone in the league knew about Sterling but they still signed to play for him . So in essence they considered Krause to be more reprehensible than Sterling, until
2 days ago. Sorry they can take their faux outrage and jam it.

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we keep calling them allegations when this was pretty much out there by anyone involved in the nba for some time. WE didn't know as joe schmoes but it seemed pretty apparent to everyone else.


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Can't believe how much racism is in this thread. Basically anyone who responded is racist.


You're sexist.


SexY not sexist


Not necessarily mutally exclusive .... :afro:

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Players didn't want to sign here for years because of Jerry Krause who never had a hint of impropriety regarding race but OMG MJeff didnt like him and that was enough for players to avoid the Bulls. Everyone in the league knew about Sterling but they still signed to play for him . So in essence they considered Krause to be more reprehensible than Sterling, until
2 days ago. Sorry they can take their faux outrage and jam it.


I don't think that many players knew about Sterling.

And what MJ did to Krause was reprehensible but no where near the same thing.

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Clearly the best solution is to sell the team to Oprah, make Isiah Thomas the GM, and the whole thing will take care of itself in about 5 years.

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we keep calling them allegations when this was pretty much out there by anyone involved in the nba for some time. WE didn't know as joe schmoes but it seemed pretty apparent to everyone else.

And convienently ignored it, both players and league office. Would have impressed me if 2 years ago Chris Paul would've refused to play for him citing his real estate dealings and known bigotry . That was the time to make a stand.

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we keep calling them allegations when this was pretty much out there by anyone involved in the nba for some time. WE didn't know as joe schmoes but it seemed pretty apparent to everyone else.

And convienently ignored it, both players and league office. Would have impressed me if 2 years ago Chris Paul would've refused to play for him citing his real estate dealings and known bigotry . That was the time to make a stand.


There's a good line about him being blackballed if he did that, but I'm too high class to make such a remark ..... :eye:

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Players didn't want to sign here for years because of Jerry Krause who never had a hint of impropriety regarding race but OMG MJeff didnt like him and that was enough for players to avoid the Bulls. Everyone in the league knew about Sterling but they still signed to play for him . So in essence they considered Krause to be more reprehensible than Sterling, until
2 days ago. Sorry they can take their faux outrage and jam it.


I don't think that many players knew about Sterling.

And what MJ did to Krause was reprehensible but no where near the same thing.

That brings up an interesting point . You don't think Michael targeted / disliked Krause because he was a fat sloppy white guy? You think he would've called Willis Reed "crumbs" , bullied him on team flights , even if Reed made the organizations win championships quote if he were GM of the Bulls instead Krause?

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By most of what I read this guy kept his oral remarks close to the vest. His actions in the past as far as I know were in the business world with the lawsuits and so on. I am not sure the players pais much attention to that stuff. I probably would not have investigated too deep when offered multi millions guaranteed.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Jason Whitlock on M&H this morning. Essentially said Sterling got railroaded and secret conversations should not be used for these purposes. Predicts it will open a big can of worms for players.


I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there are a lot of homophobic and misogynistic comments thrown around all locker rooms that people wouldn't want made public.


You can hear plenty of homophobic and misogynistic comments on the Score between 1 and 6 each day. At least you could before they "evolved".


If a caller were to ask Dan Bernstein if he's a racist, and he says that he's not, wouldn't this, by his own definition, make him a racist? Of course, if he were asked that question, he wouldn't actually answer it.


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Players didn't want to sign here for years because of Jerry Krause who never had a hint of impropriety regarding race but OMG MJeff didnt like him and that was enough for players to avoid the Bulls. Everyone in the league knew about Sterling but they still signed to play for him . So in essence they considered Krause to be more reprehensible than Sterling, until
2 days ago. Sorry they can take their faux outrage and jam it.

Have the Clippers signed many free agents?

Griffin and Jordan were drafted, Paul was a trade.


Im sure there are a few, but not really the main guys


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Players didn't want to sign here for years because of Jerry Krause who never had a hint of impropriety regarding race but OMG MJeff didnt like him and that was enough for players to avoid the Bulls. Everyone in the league knew about Sterling but they still signed to play for him . So in essence they considered Krause to be more reprehensible than Sterling, until
2 days ago. Sorry they can take their faux outrage and jam it.

Have the Clippers signed many free agents?

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Players didn't want to sign here for years because of Jerry Krause who never had a hint of impropriety regarding race but OMG MJeff didnt like him and that was enough for players to avoid the Bulls. Everyone in the league knew about Sterling but they still signed to play for him . So in essence they considered Krause to be more reprehensible than Sterling, until
2 days ago. Sorry they can take their faux outrage and jam it.


I don't think that many players knew about Sterling.

And what MJ did to Krause was reprehensible but no where near the same thing.

That brings up an interesting point . You don't think Michael targeted / disliked Krause because he was a fat sloppy white guy? You think he would've called Willis Reed "crumbs" , bullied him on team flights , even if Reed made the organizations win championships quote if he were GM of the Bulls instead Krause?


I think there is no defense for what Jordan did. He may have been racially motivated too. I really don't know.

What it speaks to is the willingness to put profits above personal dignity. And that is true in Sterling's case, as well as what happened to Krause.

And the common denominator there is Reinsdorf.

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Good job UCLA. screw people with cancer. THE GUY IS A RACIST!!

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/04/ucla-do ... g-donation

i know I'D rather die of cancer than have it cured with the money from a bigot


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Will they accept his thoughts and prayers?

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