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Great presentation you gave to my company during our sales meeting today. Fantastic sport coat, as well.

I tried to sneak a cell pic during the meeting but could not - was sitting next to my COO.

Dead f'ing ringer.

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You know how you can be certain that wasn't me? I would wear a complete suit for a presentation. Probably Hugo Boss or Perry Ellis.

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You know how you can be certain that wasn't me? I would wear a complete suit for a presentation. Probably Hugo Boss or Perry Ellis.

What is it called when it is the tie-less suit? I mean, it was a suit...but without the tie I'm hesitant to call it that. He had everything else going...stark white dress shirt, watch that would cost me a month's gross salary, etc.

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I do hate to wear a tie. Maybe it was me!

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You'd know it wasn't him as soon as the presentation glossed over Q1 losses but praised an uptick in rubber balloon sales despite a lack of company support for that product.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I do hate to wear a tie. Maybe it was me!

It was truly uncanny, I swear. I walked in late (sheepishly), took my seat, and did a major triple take when I first got a glimpse of him.

And in keeping with the image theme, it looked like this:

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You'd know it wasn't him as soon as the presentation glossed over Q1 losses but praised an uptick in rubber balloon sales despite a lack of company support for that product.

And there was a DRF on the lecturn instead of notes for his presentation.

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You'd know it wasn't him as soon as the presentation glossed over Q1 losses but praised an uptick in rubber balloon sales despite a lack of company support for that product.
You'd also know it wasn't him because the QA session to conclude the presentation didn't last days or weeks.

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You'd know it wasn't him as soon as the presentation glossed over Q1 losses but praised an uptick in rubber balloon sales despite a lack of company support for that product.

And there was a DRF on the lecturn instead of notes for his presentation.


Those were, in fact, his notes.

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Don Tiny wrote:
spmack wrote:
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You'd know it wasn't him as soon as the presentation glossed over Q1 losses but praised an uptick in rubber balloon sales despite a lack of company support for that product.

And there was a DRF on the lecturn instead of notes for his presentation.


Those were, in fact, his notes.


"I can boost your sales 15% over the next year, and also toss out the 8 at the Derby...he's due to bounce."

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spmack wrote:
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spmack wrote:
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You'd know it wasn't him as soon as the presentation glossed over Q1 losses but praised an uptick in rubber balloon sales despite a lack of company support for that product.

And there was a DRF on the lecturn instead of notes for his presentation.


Those were, in fact, his notes.


"I can boost your sales 15% over the next year, and also toss out the 8 at the Derby...he's due to bounce."


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You know how you can be certain that wasn't me? I would wear a complete suit for a presentation. Probably Hugo Boss or Perry Ellis.

What is it called when it is the tie-less suit? I mean, it was a suit...but without the tie I'm hesitant to call it that. He had everything else going...stark white dress shirt, watch that would cost me a month's gross salary, etc.


A lot of folks refer to that as business casual. However, there is much confusion over the topic, and I typically think of business casual as button down shirt but no sport coat. When you say business casual, you'll even get guys in polo shirts.

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It still amazes me that noted workers rights advocate JORR doesn't realize that any non-casual dress code is a way for the elites to control the working man.

Non-casual dress should be for weddings, funerals, and graduations only. You know, actual important events and not coming in to do a powerpoint presentation on industry trends.

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watch that would cost me a month's gross salary, etc.

#slowtrack #deadend

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watch that would cost me a month's gross salary, etc.

#slowtrack #deadend

Today was actually the day fasttrack has been realized.

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spanky wrote:
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watch that would cost me a month's gross salary, etc.

#slowtrack #deadend

Today was actually the day fasttrack has been realized.
Only 4 years later!

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It still amazes me that noted workers rights advocate JORR doesn't realize that any non-casual dress code is a way for the elites to control the working man.

Non-casual dress should be for weddings, funerals, and graduations only. You know, actual important events and not coming in to do a powerpoint presentation on industry trends.


If that Powerpoint presentation isn't important, why are we doing it? There is appropriate dress for every occasion. I don't want my banker wearing khakis and a polo shirt. I don't want my mechanic wearing a tie. I'm sorry you only dress up for dead people and future divorcees.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
immessedup17 wrote:
spanky wrote:
immessedup17 wrote:
watch that would cost me a month's gross salary, etc.

#slowtrack #deadend

Today was actually the day fasttrack has been realized.
Only 4 years later!

Three.

Today is the day I've broken through the metaphorical iron shackles that were my disadvantaged childhood growing up in the mean streets of HP.

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immessedup17 wrote:
spanky wrote:
immessedup17 wrote:
watch that would cost me a month's gross salary, etc.

#slowtrack #deadend

Today was actually the day fasttrack has been realized.

Nice job. I like the way you celebrated by showing up late to a work meeting and then posting on a message board.

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If that Powerpoint presentation isn't important, why are we doing it? There is appropriate dress for every occasion.
The powerpoint presentation probably isn't that important. There are probably three other things just as important that week. Weddings, funerals, and graduations aren't something you go to very often. You can dress up for that. Dressing up to sit at a computer for 8.5 hours(with a 30 minute paid lunch and a 30 minute unpaid lunch) is unnecessary.
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I don't want my banker wearing khakis and a polo shirt. I don't want my mechanic wearing a tie. I'm sorry you only dress up for dead people and future divorcees.
Why does it matter though? It's all just arbitrary. Is the transaction any different if your banker has on a polo shirt? You still get the money or put the money in the fake bank vault in a computer. I've never gone to the bank and been like "Wow, the fact that the person behind the counter was wearing a shirt that buttoned all the way down certainly enhanced this transaction".

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The powerpoint presentation probably isn't that important.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It still amazes me that noted workers rights advocate JORR doesn't realize that any non-casual dress code is a way for the elites to control the working man.

This would ring a lot more true if the elites didnt dress the same way, but they do mostly


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It still amazes me that noted workers rights advocate JORR doesn't realize that any non-casual dress code is a way for the elites to control the working man.

This would ring a lot more true if the elites didnt dress the same way, but they do mostly
That is a fair point. However, it does have a few differences. The first being that the elites really couldn't get away with an executive dress code that is less strict. They also may be dealing with customers more often, which seems to be the last line of "You have to dress like Don Draper" because that customer demands that you look a certain way.

It's a little different when someone who is making sure that payroll gets sent to the processor is told what to wear. It has to do with how workplaces were pretty much designed to put workers in a certain mindset and control them during the hours they are there to work. There is a fair amount of subtle soul crushing and turning people into drones when it comes to the American workplace. Forcing them to be in uncomfortable clothes is just one way to help accomplish that. That is why the concept of casual Friday is so funny. On Friday, we can somehow accomplish the goals for the day while not wearing a shirt and tie or a sportcoat! However, the business could not survive if we let people do that on Thursday. Thank you executives! I only have to spend 4/5 days of the week wearing uncomfortable clothing that I can't wait to change out of when I get home! I'm sure my productivity wearing a tie goes up by 7.2% though!

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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It still amazes me that noted workers rights advocate JORR doesn't realize that any non-casual dress code is a way for the elites to control the working man.

This would ring a lot more true if the elites didnt dress the same way, but they do mostly
That is a fair point. However, it does have a few differences. The first being that the elites really couldn't get away with an executive dress code that is less strict. They also may be dealing with customers more often, which seems to be the last line of "You have to dress like Don Draper" because that customer demands that you look a certain way.

Well, that lets my company off the hook as we have customers popping in and they walk thru the whole office. So even, Goggles in the back with the other accounting nerds need to dress up.


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It's a little different when someone who is making sure that payroll gets sent to the processor is told what to wear. It has to do with how workplaces were pretty much designed to put workers in a certain mindset and control them during the hours they are there to work.

Im gonna sound like Scorehead here, but I dont think that's necessarily a bad thing. You should have some control over those you pay.



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There is a fair amount of subtle soul crushing and turning people into drones when it comes to the American workplace. Forcing them to be in uncomfortable clothes is just one way to help accomplish that. That is why the concept of casual Friday is so funny. On Friday, we can somehow accomplish the goals for the day while not wearing a shirt and tie or a sportcoat! However, the business could not survive if we let people do that on Thursday. Thank you executives! I only have to spend 4/5 days of the week wearing uncomfortable clothing that I can't wait to change out of when I get home! I'm sure my productivity wearing a tie goes up by 7.2% though!

I never really got on board with casual fridays.

I agree with you there. Its either a job that requires professional dress or its not.


Ill tell you what. I never really feel bad for guys in shirts and ties or suits. I feel pretty terrible for teh ridiculous costumes people are made to wear in other industries though. The movie theater that forces the workers to wear a fucking bowtie comes to mind. Or the fast food worker in a tie.


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Rick owns that office.

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Well, that lets my company off the hook as we have customers popping in and they walk thru the whole office. So even, Goggles in the back with the other accounting nerds need to dress up.
I think the expectations of customers are changing though. Hopefully the days are ending where a customer cancels a multimillion dollar deal because they saw a guy in khakis in the break room when they are getting the tour. HOW CAN WE DO BUSINESS WITH A COMPANY LIKE THAT!
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Im gonna sound like Scorehead here, but I dont think that's necessarily a bad thing. You should have some control over those you pay.
Workers, in general, keep on getting screwed. They'll still have control if they allow them to be more comfortable.

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Well, that lets my company off the hook as we have customers popping in and they walk thru the whole office. So even, Goggles in the back with the other accounting nerds need to dress up.
I think the expectations of customers are changing though. Hopefully the days are ending where a customer cancels a multimillion dollar deal because they saw a guy in khakis in the break room when they are getting the tour. HOW CAN WE DO BUSINESS WITH A COMPANY LIKE THAT!
rogers park bryan wrote:
Im gonna sound like Scorehead here, but I dont think that's necessarily a bad thing. You should have some control over those you pay.
Workers, in general, keep on getting screwed. They'll still have control if they allow them to be more comfortable.

Fair enough.

I dont really mind either way. Im not gonna take my business elsewhere if my banker wears a polo, but I dont mind wearing a tie either.


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