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Leash is home alone eating a ribeye and drinking bourbon. Not even Sox fans can bring him down.

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Leash is home alone eating a ribeye and drinking bourbon. Not even Sox fans can bring him down.

FF is sitting on his balcony smoking a bowl, drinking some inversion IPA, listening to some Umphrey's and half watching the Sox game. Not even Leash can bring him down today.

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Leash is home alone eating a ribeye and drinking bourbon. Not even Sox fans can bring him down.

FF is sitting on his balcony smoking a bowl, drinking some inversion IPA, listening to some Umphrey's and half watching the Sox game. Not even Leash can bring him down today.

:lol:

I'd have to be high to half watch the Sox too. A little smack and I might even be able to fully watch.

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I'm also googling "haha Clinton Dix strengths" and successfully ordered some Rosati's pizza. Been a productive little Saturday. But yeah, Cubs suck.

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I'm also googling "haha Clinton Dix strengths" and successfully ordered some Rosati's pizza. Been a productive little Saturday. But yeah, Cubs suck.


I bet Aaron Rodgers is Googling the same thing but for different reasons.

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I'm also googling "haha Clinton Dix strengths" and successfully ordered some Rosati's pizza. Been a productive little Saturday. But yeah, Cubs suck.


I bet Aaron Rodgers is Googling the same thing but for different reasons.

I'm a Libertarian. I don't care how many dicks Aaron Rodgers sucks as long as he keeps winning 80%+ games against the Bears.

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I'm also googling "haha Clinton Dix strengths" and successfully ordered some Rosati's pizza. Been a productive little Saturday. But yeah, Cubs suck.


I bet Aaron Rodgers is Googling the same thing but for different reasons.

I'm a Libertarian. I don't care how many dicks Aaron Rodgers sucks as long as he keeps winning 80%+ games against the Bears.

:lol: I suppose you've got me there.

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I'm also googling "haha Clinton Dix strengths" and successfully ordered some Rosati's pizza. Been a productive little Saturday. But yeah, Cubs suck.


I bet Aaron Rodgers is Googling the same thing but for different reasons.



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I don't really go the route of criticizing Cub fans for supposed worship of Theo. I just remain very unimpressed with what he's done so far. If you want to grade his first 2.5-3 years here you can give him an incomplete and that would be fair to some extent. You could also give him an F and it would be just as fair. His teams have completely sucked since he took over. Rebuilds, even from the ground up or whatever bullshit the latest way to term it is, shouldn't be taking this long without showing any results. To be this bad for this long means only a World Series win, and nothing less, would be acceptable.

I think that is completely reasonable.

I am willing to be patient this year. But starting next year some results need to be seen. If that does not happen then everyone needs to follow the pasta plan.

And no doubt anything less than a WS win will be unacceptable and seen as a failure. And I am sure Theo realizes this as well.

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I don't really go the route of criticizing Cub fans for supposed worship of Theo. I just remain very unimpressed with what he's done so far. If you want to grade his first 2.5-3 years here you can give him an incomplete and that would be fair to some extent. You could also give him an F and it would be just as fair. His teams have completely sucked since he took over. Rebuilds, even from the ground up or whatever bullshit the latest way to term it is, shouldn't be taking this long without showing any results. To be this bad for this long means only a World Series win, and nothing less, would be acceptable.

I think that is completely reasonable.

I am willing to be patient this year. But starting next year some results need to be seen. If that does not happen then everyone needs to follow the pasta plan.

And no doubt anything less than a WS win will be unacceptable and seen as a failure. And I am sure Theo realizes this as well.


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Edwin Jackson was terrible money.


Regardless of if it's Ricketts or Theo, they better win a World Series in the next 7-10 years. Considering how the past few seasons and this one went, anything less will make Theo's reign here a total failure. He has a shitload of games left to win just to match Hendry's winning % as a GM.

Couldn't you say that about any franchise at any time? I mean that's a long time fir any management in any situation


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JORR, you're my guy, but you start your post saying you don't care whose fault it is and end it by blaming Theo. If the argument is that the Cubs aren't trying to compete (which it clearly is), the blame should almost inarguably go to Ricketts. Theo is not sitting in a room begging Ricketts to lower the personnel budget. The only legit criticism of Theo is that he hasn't drafted well or is spending bad money. The latter clearly isn't the case because they aren't spending money. His coaching choices haven't been great, but that's about it.


I don't know if I blame Theo specifically, but he took the job. Someone has to wear it. He's gonna be taking the bows if the "core four" come up and lead the Cubs to contention. (I know Inquistors like to post Bryant's homer totals when things are going well. They don't really post about Baez hitting a buck fifty in the PCL.) He has to take the hit for the losing over several years whether it's really Ricketts behind it or not.

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JORR, you're my guy, but you start your post saying you don't care whose fault it is and end it by blaming Theo. If the argument is that the Cubs aren't trying to compete (which it clearly is), the blame should almost inarguably go to Ricketts. Theo is not sitting in a room begging Ricketts to lower the personnel budget. The only legit criticism of Theo is that he hasn't drafted well or is spending bad money. The latter clearly isn't the case because they aren't spending money. His coaching choices haven't been great, but that's about it.


I don't know if I blame Theo specifically, but he took the job. Someone has to wear it. He's gonna be taking the bows if the "core four" come up and lead the Cubs to contention. (I know Inquistors like to post Bryant's homer totals when things are going well. They don't really post about Baez hitting a buck fifty in the PCL.) He has to take the hit for the losing over several years whether it's really Ricketts behind it or not.


The Cubs backup catcher was one of their best hitters last season,so of course they let him go. Kendrys Morales and other "pro hitters" are available every season. IF Epstein had chosen,he could have sprinkled a few (3 or 4) actual MLB players in these lineups without dipping too far in the budget. Ricketts is a dummy who probably just nods his head a lot when Epstein speaks in meetings.

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JORR, you're my guy, but you start your post saying you don't care whose fault it is and end it by blaming Theo. If the argument is that the Cubs aren't trying to compete (which it clearly is), the blame should almost inarguably go to Ricketts. Theo is not sitting in a room begging Ricketts to lower the personnel budget. The only legit criticism of Theo is that he hasn't drafted well or is spending bad money. The latter clearly isn't the case because they aren't spending money. His coaching choices haven't been great, but that's about it.


I don't know if I blame Theo specifically, but he took the job. Someone has to wear it. He's gonna be taking the bows if the "core four" come up and lead the Cubs to contention. (I know Inquistors like to post Bryant's homer totals when things are going well. They don't really post about Baez hitting a buck fifty in the PCL.) He has to take the hit for the losing over several years whether it's really Ricketts behind it or not.



I don't like Ricketts, personally. He is a silver spoon who seems to be in way over his head, and the Cubs are suffering for it. He wasn't fully aware of the financial situation when he purchased the team as Mr. Fan Boy. Beyond that, he is cheesy and awkward.

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I don't like Ricketts, personally. He is a silver spoon who seems to be in way over his head, and the Cubs are suffering for it. He wasn't fully aware of the financial situation when he purchased the team as Mr. Fan Boy. Beyond that, he is cheesy and awkward.



You are funny. This guy is just this or that oh how nice. My owner gets crucified for 30 years over a stadium deal and a 1994 strike every fucking day and he brought the World Series here.

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I don't like Ricketts, personally. He is a silver spoon who seems to be in way over his head, and the Cubs are suffering for it. He wasn't fully aware of the financial situation when he purchased the team as Mr. Fan Boy. Beyond that, he is cheesy and awkward.



You are funny. This guy is just this or that oh how nice. My owner gets crucified for 30 years over a stadium deal and a 1994 strike every fucking day and he brought the World Series here.


I have no idea what you said.

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I don't like Ricketts, personally. He is a silver spoon who seems to be in way over his head, and the Cubs are suffering for it. He wasn't fully aware of the financial situation when he purchased the team as Mr. Fan Boy. Beyond that, he is cheesy and awkward.



You are funny. This guy is just this or that oh how nice. My owner gets crucified for 30 years over a stadium deal and a 1994 strike every fucking day and he brought the World Series here.


I have no idea what you said.


It wasn't really directed right at you. I was simply thinking how this Rickett's guy gets a bit of a pass. Sure people are critical but compared to the hate for Reinsdorf for silly reasons it is odd.

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I think the longer he's around, the more shit he'll get. He's still in a honeymoon phase with the average fan.

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Silly reasons? Reinsdorf has made a career of cheating taxpayers. Silly!


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Silly reasons? Reinsdorf has made a career of cheating taxpayers. Silly!


More than most other pro sports franchise owners?

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I would say so, yes. I think he made his money on tax loopholes.

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pittmike wrote:
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I don't like Ricketts, personally. He is a silver spoon who seems to be in way over his head, and the Cubs are suffering for it. He wasn't fully aware of the financial situation when he purchased the team as Mr. Fan Boy. Beyond that, he is cheesy and awkward.



You are funny. This guy is just this or that oh how nice. My owner gets crucified for 30 years over a stadium deal and a 1994 strike every fucking day and he brought the World Series here.


I have no idea what you said.


It wasn't really directed right at you. I was simply thinking how this Rickett's guy gets a bit of a pass. Sure people are critical but compared to the hate for Reinsdorf for silly reasons it is odd.

I hate Ricketts, Mike.


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Augie Ojeda typical cub favorite how weird are these guys.

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Big Cub fan bigfan just said what you hate hearing from Sox fans. The problem is, most of you want to rely on bigfan et al to buy the tickets while you watch the NFL Draft instead of your shitty team until the Year 2048 when they finally contend and you can jump back on the bandwagon with both feet and celebrate multiple champions with your teenage children while poor bigfan is in palliative care and jimmypasta is six feet under.

No one is forcing bigfan to buy tickets. Given I am still in 70,000s on season ticket waiting list there seems like plenty of people are still interested in watching baseball on the Northside.

I would just like you to focus your anger and incessant diatribes on your own shitty fans and shittier business management. A beautiful weekend and 2 of 3 nights the Sox couldn't break 20K because Jerry has his taxpayer cake and wants to eat it too by soaking fans for $45 bleacher tickets.

I mean nothing says wanting to win the World Series than Hector Noesi, Felipe Paulino, John Danks etc. You're more pissed about what Ricketts is doing while the shucksters running the Sox have had the same number of playoffs appearances since 2008.


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Big Cub fan bigfan just said what you hate hearing from Sox fans. The problem is, most of you want to rely on bigfan et al to buy the tickets while you watch the NFL Draft instead of your shitty team until the Year 2048 when they finally contend and you can jump back on the bandwagon with both feet and celebrate multiple champions with your teenage children while poor bigfan is in palliative care and jimmypasta is six feet under.

Given I am still in 70,000s on season ticket waiting list

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The Sox should move to Rosemont. They would steal all the pissed off Cub fans and still retain their own fandom.

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Are you really suggesting there are 70,000 people waiting for season tickets for a team that doesn't sell out any games? And you don't think you're being conned? My God!

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No one is forcing bigfan to buy tickets.



Forcing him, no. Relying on him, yes. If everybody said, "Fuck it, I won't buy any tickets until they're good", they would fold. It's easy to say, "that will never happen".

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