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Jerry Reinsdorf would have what.


Hired Very. Smart. Lawyers. to pick apart every contract for loopholes.

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They are stealing the product

Yeah, just like I'm stealing the signal of the Score when I listen to it on the radio.

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Jerry Reinsdorf would have used lawyers to destroy every rooftop owner and make them all flee the city in shame.

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Curious Hair wrote:
Jerry Reinsdorf would have what.


Dan said that Reinsdorf would have handled the rooftop owners by having his lawyers go through every contract they ever signed looking for leverage to use against them.


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look, the rooftop owners are the bad guy.


Really? Because Beth Murphy hasn't subjected me to four years of shitty baseball.


Tom disagrees .... I don't

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It's somewhat unfortunate that 'Caller Max' was allowed to hang up the phone thinking he had said something of some value ...

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It's somewhat unfortunate that 'Caller Max' was allowed to hang up the phone thinking he had said something of some value ...
:lol: Was that the "The legal system was designed to be expensive for a reason" guy?

I don't think that is true, and it certainly shouldn't be true if it is.

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It's funny how they're lamenting the masses "falling prey" to the rooftop propaganda while being part of Ricketts's propaganda.

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Don Tiny wrote:
It's somewhat unfortunate that 'Caller Max' was allowed to hang up the phone thinking he had said something of some value ...


We need more law student viewpoints!

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Don Tiny wrote:
It's somewhat unfortunate that 'Caller Max' was allowed to hang up the phone thinking he had said something of some value ...



But he was a business law student. Or Bernsie's cousin. Or both?

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look, the rooftop owners are the bad guy.


Really? Because Beth Murphy hasn't subjected me to four years of shitty baseball.

and you're not even a season ticket holder.

They're installing a business based on watching a game live. The Cubs should have left the windscreens up and never negotiated a deal in the first place.

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$40 million for lawyers? I'm sure they're really smart, but that sounds awfully steep.

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Don Tiny wrote:
It's somewhat unfortunate that 'Caller Max' was allowed to hang up the phone thinking he had said something of some value ...



But he was a business law student. Or Bernsie's cousin. Or both?



He was funny enough to be one ...

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$40 million for lawyers? I'm sure they're really smart, but that sounds awfully steep.

in a stroke of good luck, the Cubs have hired Jerry Reinsdorf.

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City of Fools wrote:
They're installing a business based on watching a game live. The Cubs should have left the windscreens up and never negotiated a deal in the first place.


Right, and the rooftops (and their buildings) function as ersatz luxury boxes that neo-retro parks can have but Wrigley Field cannot. The Cubs not only should have made sure to capture that revenue stream, but should have captured even more than they did. Honestly, they should have bought the damn things outright. But to argue in favor of windscreens? Honestly?

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Curious Hair wrote:
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They're installing a business based on watching a game live. The Cubs should have left the windscreens up and never negotiated a deal in the first place.


Right, and the rooftops (and their buildings) function as ersatz luxury boxes that neo-retro parks can have but Wrigley Field cannot. The Cubs not only should have made sure to capture that revenue stream, but should have captured even more than they did. Honestly, they should have bought the damn things outright. But to argue in favor of windscreens? Honestly?

a little over the top, perhaps. Buying them out would have worked better, yes.

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If Uncle Jerry were in charge, Wrigley would have been leveled years ago and the Cubs would be drawing 11K/game.

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Curious Hair wrote:
But to argue in favor of windscreens? Honestly?


Yeah, anyone who knew what happened with Shibe Park wouldn't say something so dumb.

To me, the argument is really about the bigger, stronger, richer guy trying to have it all. He wants the benefits of having an antique park smack dab in the middle of a neighborhood, but doesn't want any of the annoyances/drawbacks that come with it. Just like your boss loves the increased production your cellphone and laptop give him but he worries about stopping you from surfing Facebook and the CSFMB.

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Hatchetman wrote:
If Uncle Jerry were in charge, Wrigley would have been leveled years ago and the Cubs would be drawing 11K/game.


That is probably really close to the truth.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
But to argue in favor of windscreens? Honestly?


Yeah, anyone who knew what happened with Shibe Park wouldn't say something so dumb.

To me, the argument is really about the bigger, stronger, richer guy trying to have it all. He wants the benefits of having an antique park smack dab in the middle of a neighborhood, but doesn't want any of the annoyances/drawbacks that come with it. Just like your boss loves the increased production your cellphone and laptop give him but he worries about stopping you from surfing Facebook and the CSFMB.

and...?

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City of Fools wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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But to argue in favor of windscreens? Honestly?


Yeah, anyone who knew what happened with Shibe Park wouldn't say something so dumb.

To me, the argument is really about the bigger, stronger, richer guy trying to have it all. He wants the benefits of having an antique park smack dab in the middle of a neighborhood, but doesn't want any of the annoyances/drawbacks that come with it. Just like your boss loves the increased production your cellphone and laptop give him but he worries about stopping you from surfing Facebook and the CSFMB.

and...?


And there's no issue with him wanting it. It's to be expected. But what kind of moron roots for him?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
City of Fools wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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But to argue in favor of windscreens? Honestly?


Yeah, anyone who knew what happened with Shibe Park wouldn't say something so dumb.

To me, the argument is really about the bigger, stronger, richer guy trying to have it all. He wants the benefits of having an antique park smack dab in the middle of a neighborhood, but doesn't want any of the annoyances/drawbacks that come with it. Just like your boss loves the increased production your cellphone and laptop give him but he worries about stopping you from surfing Facebook and the CSFMB.

and...?


And there's no issue with him wanting it. It's to be expected. But what kind of moron roots for him?

a Cubs season ticket holder.

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Why does being a season ticket holder make you root against the rooftops? Because they represent competition on the secondary market? Aren't you, in turn, competing with the Cubs' box office?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
City of Fools wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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But to argue in favor of windscreens? Honestly?


Yeah, anyone who knew what happened with Shibe Park wouldn't say something so dumb.

To me, the argument is really about the bigger, stronger, richer guy trying to have it all. He wants the benefits of having an antique park smack dab in the middle of a neighborhood, but doesn't want any of the annoyances/drawbacks that come with it. Just like your boss loves the increased production your cellphone and laptop give him but he worries about stopping you from surfing Facebook and the CSFMB.

and...?


And there's no issue with him wanting it. It's to be expected. But what kind of moron roots for him?


You act as though there's someone/something that makes it compelling to give a fuck about the rooftop people.

As far as I'm concerned, the rooftops 'winning' net me absolutely nothing in any way, shape, or form.

The Ricketts 'winning' at least offers the potential that they will spend some of their fabulous monetary windfall on players that might net the Cubs a championship. Or, at the very least, it removes the easiest, most obvious excuse they can call upon as to why they aren't spending money.

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Curious Hair wrote:
Why does being a season ticket holder make you root against the rooftops? Because they represent competition on the secondary market? Aren't you, in turn, competing with the Cubs' box office?

I root against anything that "holds" the Cubs back from increasing their ability to raise money and then spend it on the team.

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City of Fools wrote:
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Why does being a season ticket holder make you root against the rooftops? Because they represent competition on the secondary market? Aren't you, in turn, competing with the Cubs' box office?

I root against anything that "holds" the Cubs back from increasing their ability to raise money and then spend it on the team.
Hopefully the Cubs raise season ticket prices 20% next year.

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City of Fools wrote:
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Why does being a season ticket holder make you root against the rooftops? Because they represent competition on the secondary market? Aren't you, in turn, competing with the Cubs' box office?

I root against anything that "holds" the Cubs back from increasing their ability to raise money and then spend it on the team.
Hopefully the Cubs raise season ticket prices 20% next year.

if the market will bear it, amen (and frankly even if it doesn't completely)

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I cant wait until the renovations are done and we get an in depth tour of Laura's luxury box. :oops:

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City of Fools wrote:
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Why does being a season ticket holder make you root against the rooftops? Because they represent competition on the secondary market? Aren't you, in turn, competing with the Cubs' box office?

I root against anything that "holds" the Cubs back from increasing their ability to raise money and then spend it on the team.

So you're rooting against Ricketts? Because he's the only person holding the Cubs back from spending. Nothing is stopping the chump from dropping the jumbotron and signage. It is possible to upgrade the clubhouses, build a hotel, and spruce up the place in general. I fear the day he gets his grimy claws on the rooftops. Once he's done with them they'll look like the Times Square monstrosities in St. Louis:

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