Militias don't normally fight on foreign soil.

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You should probably just save your time and stop responding. He's just being a clown again.

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Hence my point about rights and free speech and 4th amendment and on and on. IMHO those founders got stuff right to keep us guessing after 250 and whatever years.

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Please post the definition Thomas Jefferson used, because "well regulated" means keeping a militia available at a high rate of speed so it is maintained properly and ready for use.

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I think private citizens should have the right to own guns, generally speaking. But the 2nd amendment is vague and obviously worded based upon the times in which it was written. "Arms" was clear back then. Today it's not. So we rely on politically-connected appointees to define it for us. Not ideal.

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Nothing personal Mike, but I don't think Madison was trying to dick with us regarding our inalienable rights.

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The 4th amendment isnt confusing. The local, state, and federal governments don't violate it because it's hard to define. They violate it because it's annoying to them.

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No I don't think dick with us. I was trying to get to the fact that they were mostly spot on and got it right for this constitution to last this long. We are ahead of the curve as far as number of years as a country with the same original form of government based on the constitution.

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I see I've now gotten under the skin of the false Libertarian by pointing out what the Constitution actually says. Sorry Charlie.

The entire point of the Second Amendment was that the framers did not want to have a standing army. If you want to go back to original intent, then the Second Amendment doesn't apply to anybody anymore since we spend trillions of dollars each year on our standing army.

There's plenty of books on the subject. Find some. Read something other than talking points.

One could easily argue that's a bad thing, not a good thing.

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I took the fact that you didn't respond to my statement as acceptance that it easily defeated your silly little claim.

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Thomas Jefferson would likely be one of them.

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The 18 smiley faces? I didn't know that warranted a response.

You know who you remind me of when you declare yourself the winner of these?


I hope you don't find this insulting. It's actually quite adorable.

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I see you confused yourself. That's awesome. FYI, YOU were talking about your post which tried to claim I wasn't a libertarian because I don't adhere to it in the most extreme of circumstances. You weren't talking about your ignorant post implying that Thomas Jefferson defined well regulated.

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The only thing I didn't respond to of his from this page was the 10 smileys. But ok.

Still confused I see. It's from the first page dipshit.

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No this is response is what's ignorant. Jefferson and Madison didn't want a standing army. That was the basis of the second amendment.

And if you are a true libertarian then you don't believe in government regulation of any kind. Be it a Glock or a nuke.

FYI... show me where this says "self defense"

So the next time you post about people calling names we can tell you to shove this post up your ass right?

And if we'd like to talk about answering questions, BRick still hasn't given us the date that he is supposed to report with his weapon for the militia.

Technically, I would call myself a voluntaryist. In our current political climate, for all intents and purposes, I'm a libertarian. That doesn't mean I have to strictly believe and promote every single idea of that philosophy at its utmost extreme. I realize as a Democrat you are probably unfamiliar with this type of approach to politics.

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Sooooo that's why I favor a balanced budget amendment and support Second Amendment ownership rights then right?

Boy and you claim I don't pay attention to people's views.

Don't bother I tried a while ago to simply say I have Libertarian leanings and made the mistake of calling myself one. There is no good end to the discussion.

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Who was that guy again?

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The hipster in me wants to own a musket.

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Somebody with the same skin color as Jesus (It's in Revelation in case you weren't sure)

Why, the loveable Iraqi information minister!

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That sounds like a case against the United States having a standing army. Also, if they didn't want a standing army, they should have put it down on paper like they did other things. If Thomas Jefferson didn't want a standing army in the United States, then he is an idiot.

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